Time to start a nonprofit that cleans up old machines and installs Linux on them for deserving poor folks.
Already done in France by Emmaüs, they even have their own Ubuntu based distro.
Be the change etc…
Tons already exist. If you’re in the Pacific Northwest then make your donations to https://www.freegeek.org
Man, we should make computers upgradable or something.
Wouldn’t someone think of the poor shareholders
TLDR;
Microsoft has already announced it will offer extended security updates for Windows 10 to 2028.
ESU is a paid service for enterprise. They didn’t even offer ESU for windows 7 home.
Windows 7 pro ESU per device cost $50 for 1 year, $100 for the next year, $200 for the final year.
Windows 7 enterprise was per device 1 year $25, second year $50, and 3rd year $100.
Micro$oft is not going to give win10 ESU away for free and they probably won’t supported home edition.
You can however bypass the win11 hardware checks to upgrade unsupported devices.
LTSC IoT Enterprise 2021 will last till 2031
You know who throws away computers? WASTEFUL people. There’s always a use for older, “obsolete” technology. Today’s tablet could become tomorrow’s clock or picture frame. Today’s computer could become tomorrow’s server or game system or video player. You just have to have a little creativity and some knowledge of tech.
I used to think the same way as you before realize someone garbage it’s someone else treasure, so now I sell anything too old for my uses to add some extra money and get new stuff, usually don’t throw away anything, for example I like to disguise old laptops and CPUs to sell the working old parts to people who repair industrial old equipment, plenty of people willing to pay good money for some pieces of old shitty hardware.
Unfortunately it isn’t always as easy as that. Depending on what broke on the old computer, finding the right replacement part may be a nightmare. You can often find old CPUs on eBay for dirt cheap, but the catch is that there are close to no motherboards available, and the ones that are are way too expensive to be interesting. Moreover, it isn’t always interesting to run old hardware for something that is on 24/7. My R5900X NAS sips 75W… At idle. 130W at full power. Depending on your electricity price, it could be more interesting to buy newer, more efficient hardware, than using older ones.
I don’t think it’s fair to blame individual consumers. The whole consumer electrics industry is predicated on planned obsolescence and getting the consumer to buy the latest devices. In reality computers and smartphones have stagnated in terms of functionally for every day people and frequent upgrades aren’t necessary.
Here Microsoft has colluded with hardware manufactures so Windows 11 will obsolete perfectly usable computers. What choice does the consumer have to fight back? Regulation is needed to force consumer electronics to be sustainable and long lasting.
At the end of the day, consumers enable this behaviour by majoratively buying into their bullshit. If people just stopped supporting the bearers of bad practices, companies like Microsoft would change tack in a nano second to remain commercially viable.
To add to the valid points others already made - some people simply don’t have the inclination or know how, or even just the physical space to store all these old machines. Yet those machines going to landfill are still almost certainly the responsibility of those who not only made them barely last a couple of years, but who invest billions if not trillions on developing a newer version no one wants, and selling it (or forcing it) on people despite no one really needing it…
Send the 7th Gen and better ones to me for plex servers.
Send Windows 11 and their stupid trusted computing initiative to the landfill instead.
All those computers would run amazing with Linux.
Sure, or just windows 10 even. My custom build still smokes most mid and entry level off the shelf pcs but is ineligible for win11 BS requirements. As a result, my start button is still way over on the left side! What in the hell is the alure of 11 that people feel the need to toss their system? I don’t see it.
Security updates and general support. That’s basically it
No. Windows 10 is still fully supported and receives security updates in a regular schedule.
For now yes, but I believe support ends next year
Please. Save your beliefs for spaghetti monsters and ghost hunting. This sort of thing is better left to facts. Windows 10 will remain fully supported through October 2025.
I think the “researchers” may not actually have gathered any data on what actually happens in these types of scenarios. beyond people just keeping on with old os which a lot will unless MS intentionally sends out a brick-update.
lots of countires/municipalities have WEE programmes to try to prevent electronics from getting to landfil - especially until things like batteries and other toxic or dangerous chemicals can be removed.Or the headline is pure clickbait garbage - it’s bad enough that i’m not going to bother clicking and read any more filth.
It was said in the previous thread that the TPM and Microsoft account requirements can be overridden with Rufus, so anyone can update to Win 11.
Sure, but Windows 11 is a pain in the ass. My Internet was lagging the other day so my start menu wouldn’t find a locally installed program because it couldn’t search the Internet too.
But will microsoft attempt to block bypassing those horrible requirements or they cannot do so as its a registry hack.
Know what? Just send them to me.
Windows 11, finally bringing the year of Linux on the desktop.
I think most people would rather throw away their computer than learn to click a different icon.
Finally cheaper hardware in the used market
I’ll take them for free
I am prepared to pick them up and show some leg, as a bonus.
Microsoft: Okay (Forces everyone on W11 anyway)
How dangerous can it be to run an old OS anyways? Been doing it for years. Might actually be a good thing now that the forced updates are gone.
I wonder what said researchers though about windows xp or 7 reaching EOL…deeer
