Who would’ve thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): “The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper.”

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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      10 months ago

      Exactly my thoughts. “Let’s jailbreak this, bypass that, circumvent that one thing…” Why do you subject yourself to this with a device you paid hundreds of dollars for?

      As much as I’d like to have an iPhone, I’d rather not.

      As an aside, it’s the same thing with game consoles. Is the whole “you must be connected to the internet” thing still happening? That’s what has been preventing me from getting a new xbox, for example.

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        9 months ago

        I remember way back when I had my iPod Touch 4 (haven’t touched Apple since then) that I (intentionally) jailbroke it simply by tapping a button on a website in Safari. It was an exploit that used a bug in iOS’s PDF software, I believe.

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    10 months ago

    Top comment by Chris (@SwiftySanders@urbanists.social) Liked by 7 people

    I think all these changes that the EU is doing really only benefit large development firms like Spotify and Epic at the expense of the smaller developers. EU is adding additional regulations and requirements from Apple which smaller developers and indie developers will now have to comply with which will act as barriers to entry for some. That’s bad for competition…which I think was ultimately the goal for Epic and Spotify.

    I love this braindead take regurgitated again and again and again. The DMA specifically does not apply to anyone smaller than a big monopolistic company. Apple barely made the cut themselves. The whole regulation is about forcing six companies - the Act only applies to them at all - to open up their walled gardens because they are strangling their respective markets and killing innovation, consumer choice and competition.

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      10 months ago

      That is hilarious that they expect iOS users to pay a fee to sideload apps. Like comically evil.

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        I don’t pay anything to side load apps on my phone.

        Probably bc I switched to Android.:-)

        And I am never ever going back!

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          You sound like one of those people who said they’d move to Canada when Trump got elected the first time, and didn’t.

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    For the hate-cult members circle-jerking over imaginary arguments with “fan boys” here. Actual Apple users either completely agree with the criticism, or simply don’t even care.

    Feel free to hate on Apple the company, but stop trying so hard to make this place a home for baseless toxicity.

    Edit: And just to drive home how pathetic this is, here’s a link to an article posted elsewhere in the fediverse about Google being shady af. Go look through those comments for a single soul saying anything about “Google/Android fanboys”.

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      What is this gaslighting you’re trying to pull here? You’re really going to pretend that Apple fanboys don’t exist and instead start criticising some sort of perceived toxicity from a “hate cult” against Apple? That’s before you get into some bizarre Google strawman. The reality is that these Apple fanboys with values antithetical to software freedom exist, and want walled gardens everywhere.

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        What purpose would there be in gaslighting something like this out of nowhere? Genuine question.
        If you want to see examples of baseless vitriol directed at apple users, just keep reading the rest of the replies to OP’s post.

        The reality is that these Apple fanboys with values antithetical to software freedom exist,

        Sure, just like anywhere else. You can’t point your finger exclusively at the apple camp for that.

        and want walled gardens everywhere.

        Speaking of staw men…
        Some apple users prefer apple’s walled garden, sure, but they’re not going around saying Google, Windows or Linux must be walled as well.

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          What purpose would there be in gaslighting something like this out of nowhere? Genuine question.

          Most people, including myself, prefer their own version of reality. You are promoting a version of reality that I do not find tasteful at all. With conflicting realities, meaningful disagreement is impossible and the only thing I can do is question the narratives that oppose my own.

          More generally, ego also plays a huge part in why people do this. Apple has a significant following that will defend its every decision. It’s brand has become personal identity for a lot of people. To the extent where I’ve been seeing news articles over the past two years about teenagers being bullied for using Android. This also happens to be the reason why people point their finger at Apple; because Apple users are the main group with such a distinct identity.

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    I fucking hate Apple with a passion.

    Edit: many people seem to be a bit confused. I don’t own any apple garbage, and never will. I’ve only had an iPhone back in 2016 for a little while then replaced that shit with a pixel 6p. I don’t buy shit that makes my life difficult.

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      Why? What have they done to you? If you don’t like their products, simply don’t buy them.

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        Apple has made a lot of anti-consumer decisions. And since Apple is a big market force, other companies follow suite when they pull off shit like that. There is a legitimate reason to not like Apple.

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        It’s not that simple.

        Blue chat boxes affect everyone. RCS is a stepping stone but my daughter wouldn’t be caught dead with a green chat box. Tell me how that isn’t Apple using their dominance to prevent other players?

        FaceTime (which they PROMISED to open up but never did) affects everyone.

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          sounds like your daughter is a typical sheep - perhaps THAT’S the issue you ought to try having an issue with rather than a company doing normal business.

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      My rationale is this: apple users love spending money, so they can go ahead and spend it.

      Fuck’em.

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          True that. If people actually cared we would see better things in the world for example - Firefox dominating the market. Now I don’t care if people use Brave/Samsung/Chrome/Vivaldi/Edge but the fact that they may all lead to Google dictating the Open Web sucks.

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            I love that you bring up web browsers as an example while saying that Apple users don’t care enough about the technological landscape. Safari is the leading competitor to chrome! Without those Apple users sticking to the browser they know on the system you ridicule, the problem you’ve identified would be worse.