He’s right, we should ban Apple too if we’re getting rid of bullshit we shouldn’t trust.
Of course he’s right but that doesn’t stop generational propaganda from wearing off that easy.
There is somehow always a boogeyman that’s making US suffer, it’s never the US itself because it’s the “greatest country” in the world and everyone is jealous. It can’t be anything else.
I’m not sure but I think I’ve heard he agrees with you EDIT: or not
Please don’t ban Google 🙏
by that logic, please DO ban google
Nooooo don’t take away my Android :(
android is open source.
it doesnt need google to exist. in fact i think it would be better without it.
Everybody talking about nonexistent bans, playing into TikTok’s hands of shifting the narrative away from them being forced to sell.
What’s the difference?
The end user won’t be aware anything happened. If a ban kicks in then they will start to notice issues when the app updates don’t occur.
Forcing them to sell means TikTok will continue to operate under new ownership, owners who are not an arm of the Chinese Military.
Banning them would mean TikTok will no longer operate.
The legislature in the works is a forced sale.
A forced sale on a timescale that these kind of sales have never and will never work on. It’s framed like a sale for those reasons but in practice it’s an impossible task designed to force failure and thus removal.
We’ll see, I suppose. Some business sell in a couple months, some businesses take years to sell. I haven’t read the legislature so idk if there is a time limitation set on the forced sale, please enlighten us.
it would be hypocrisy if ccp’s china were democratic, didn’t practice party dictatorship or rule by law.
else it’s right to ban an app that could sway public opinions,especially one that is a hostile towards america.
The idea that “it’s ok cause we’d do the same” is ridiculous. There is no comparison: China is an authoritarian government and the parent company is practically an arm of the state. There are legitimate criticisms of American tech companies obviously, but they’re ultimately subject to the market and democratic governments. We shouldn’t be doing any business with authoritarians in the first place, much less inviting them to control a significant social media app in the guise of a legitimate business.
All profit social media should be held accountable for the content, and the accuracy of it. That’s what the money is for—moderation of disinformation and illegal content.
that would be fine if they decided to apply it to all of it, not just tiktok
I agree.
I don’t use TikTok, I never have, I never will and I advice against anyone else doing so not only for privacy reasons but also the effect it has on mental health and attention span. I lose nothing if it gets banned - and I’m still against banning it. The only difference between TikTok and other social media platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and Instagram is that TikTok is Chinese owned. Do they actively influence western politics by it? Absolutely. We’d be doing the exact same thing if our platforms weren’t banned in China. If the US decides to ban it then that’s a move from the Chinese playbook. Don’t be like China.
The only difference between TikTok and other social media platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and Instagram is that TikTok is Chinese owned.
The law would also appy to Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
If the US decides to ban it then that’s a move from the Chinese playbook. Don’t be like China.
It has a bit of the same vibe as the “tolerating intolerance” paradox.
It’s only a “paradox” if you start by defining tolerance as universally good.
Example: should you tolerate botflies living in your scalp?
I’ll refer you a video by Ryan McBeth. He gives some great insight on why the US is considering a ban.
This feels like a soft landing for Infowars.
He advertised a no-name VPN, do you trust that product with your traffic? The he goes on to cite a movie as a source. And then another one…
Dude I can’t even finish watching this.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, he’s just not credible. You can read citations from primary sources from politicians in actual news articles that are … shockingly … less hairbrained and more concise than this guy.
Private Internet Access is not a no-name VPN. What are you on about?
He works in the cyber security field… But whatever… I did my part and tried to inform… can’t help ya if ya dense.
Uhh, it’s not hypocrisy.
The US government demanded access to the US based social media companies to pull whatever sensitive information they wanted. They just don’t want China to have the same access.
Also, TikTok has been caught abusing exploits to get additional information outside of the permissions granted by users. IIRC, TikTok was caught stealing the MAC address from phones a few years back.
It’s odd the Steve Wozniak is pretending to be ignorant of the distinction. US government wants Intel, and doesn’t want a rival nation to possess similar Intel. That’s basic intelligence 101.
The US government demanded access to the US based social media companies to pull whatever sensitive information they wanted. They just don’t want China to have the same access.
Or Russia, Iran, or North Korea.
Woz, like me, believes that nobody should have that intel. Trusting nation-states is always a bad idea.
Man who profits from slave labor in China, is against China being fucked with. Why is this news?
Woz doesn’t profit from slave labor in China any more than any of us since he hasn’t actually worked for Apple since like 1985. Since then, he’s started a number of other companies doing a bunch of other stuff, like cleaning space junk most recently
Oh great. So we can be surrounded by clean space junk
Are you saying he doesn’t profit off apple as one of its largest shareholders?
He was one of the largest shareholders. One third of the company in fact… but he sold most of those way back when they were worth almost nothing (as in hundreds of dollars). And as far as we know virtually all the rest of his shares since then have been gifted to charities. Mostly schools.
“I do not invest. I don’t do that stuff. I didn’t want to be near money because it could corrupt your values.” – Steve Wozniak, five years ago
He makes a good living doing speeches at universities/etc - that’s his primary wealth, not his shares in Apple. If he had kept even a tenth of the shares he once owned, he’d be richer than Elon Musk. As it is, the house he lives in is likely more than half of his total worth (it’s a nice house, with six bedrooms, in a nice location… more than most people can afford but hardly extravagant, 6 bedrooms is enough to host a large family holiday party, which I think is quite reasonable).
Lol
This is the guy who knew how to solder, not the guy who invented walled gardens
Never thought I’d be calling Wozniak a senile piece of shit, but here we are.
I bet he’s devastated.
