Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?
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i have just started running radicale a lot more for calendars and contacts. then use betterbird for the client on my laptop and other android apps.
the problem is that there is no web-ui. otherwise, relatively solid and lightweight server so far.
From other responses to this thread it appears that Baikal does have a web UI so maybe it closes this gap?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol SFTP Secure File Transfer Protocol for encrypted file transfer, over SSH SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access SSO Single Sign-On nginx Popular HTTP server
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Syncthing can backup your photos on Android.
I switched to Radicale and couldn’t be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.
Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.
I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.
Haha, interesting, for me it was the exact opposite, I started with Baikal but it was too weird and I couldn’t get it up and running quickly enough and then I think I was not able to share my calendar with my partner or something, so I switched to Radicale.
What do you do for file syncing, if you don’t mind me asking
Syncthing and I have it partitioned with:
- Music
- Documents
- Family Documents
- Password DB
So that I can decide what to sync to which device.Music is for example too big to sync to my Phone so I don’t. Family documents I also share with my partner. Password DB I sync with all my devices but not to anyone else.
I use syncthing between my desktop and laptop for syncing all my documents, development environments and so on. Works well.
But how well does it work for sharing with someone else? E.g. it would be great to find a solution where myself and my partner could share notes and shopping lists which we can both edit. We use Google keep currently but I’m currently testing out solutions to de-google our lives. Nextcloud seemed like a good idea as it has docs and things but I’ve not found it very good to be honest. Especially syncing on a mobile. I’ve been using obsidian recently for my notes and it works well between laptop and desktop with the nextcloud app but I have to keep going into nextcloud on android to force it to sync or pick up new files. I’m just about to see how syncthing works for that but back to my original question…can you reliably have two people editing things with syncthing?
Joplin may ne good for you with notes
In the end it’s just another devise. But we are not changing the same document at the same time, that would lead to many sync conflicts I imagine. For that some special protocol for concurent Editing would be better.
Disagree. I’ve self hosted nextcloud for years without issue.
Just go with what you need. Some only need contacts and calendars, others want the whole thing.
I think that’s kind of what they meant. I’ve also selfhosted Nextcloud for years, but I only use file sync and calendar/contacts.
Lately I’ve been feeling that Nextcloud is too big and clunky for just that. Like it’s something I’d love to setup at work or for an org, but that it “feels” to heavy for home use these days.
I need to check out Radicale, I think.
Yeah, I also selfhosted it for years myself. But I was adding more and more services to my server and it became clear that if I would want to keep Nextcloud I’d need a server with more CPU and RAM because when Nextcloud was running it would after half a day deadlock the server with a load of 120 so I had to hard reboot it twice a day.
After replacing it with radicale and syncthing I was able to run Mastodon and Lemmy on the same server additionally.
I’ve been hoping to find a non-PHP alternative to Nextcloud for a while, but unfortunately I’ve yet to find one which supports my base requirements for the file storage.
Due to some quirks with my setup, my backing storage consists of a mix of local folders, S3 buckets, SMB/SFTP mounts (with user credential login), and even an external WebDav server.
Nextcloud does manage such a thing phenomenally, while all the alternatives I’ve tested (including a Radicale backed by rclone mounts) tend to fall completely to pieces as soon as more than one storage backend ends up getting involved, especially when some of said backends need to be accessed with user-specific credentials.Owncloud infinite scale is a rewrite of owncloud(=nextcloud) in go, it supports local, nfs and S3 mounts. Change the smb share to nfs and it might fit you
Disadvantages are:
- All the plugins need to be rewritten, so if you need some extra feature, it’s going to be missing
- They got acquired by a company that sells an expensive alternative for corporations (RIP? Who is paying millions to maintain a free alternative/competitor?)
- Documentation is inferior, community is much smaller
I just want an app to backup all the photos from my phone automatically. I use NextCloud for that currently and it works well. But, it’s kinda heavy for what I want/need.
There’s also PhotoPrism which is nice. The comparison between the two is evolving with every release.
They don’t have a proper Android app with sync capability and force you to use the proprietary, 3rd-party PhotoSync app.
That’s not entirely correct. PhotoPrism offers WebDAV and SAMBA protocols, and their docs state that clearly: https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/sync/mobile-devices/#other-apps Furthermore, you can always sync files to the server via other means (e.g. SyncThing).
I’m talking about easy to set up, new user friendly solutions. Having an official app with a sync feature is essential in my opinion
have you heard about immich? it’s a bit ‘heavy’, too, but that’s because it’s not just a photo backup solution but aims to be a self-hosted multi-user replacement for google photos.
Can Immich just leave my photos alone in their current location / folder structure, or does it take over and mangle it all up?
I’m fairly happy with my photo storage structure, but would like the features of Immich…
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I use it in readonly mode. Works great nice app and great search capabilities.
I currently rent a VM running nextcloud for family use. It currently shows its age with all the nescessary tinkering to keep it current. (also have to use the hosters db which is … difficult)
I’m thinking along the same lines…
a smallffpc at home, dyn to my home ip, wireguard as a vpn into my home, The server runs: radicale caldav carddav, ksmbd family photos.
my main problem: this needs to work on ios and android and linux and windows, reliably, which it currently does not in my test setup.
currently lacking a solution for recipe sharing and shopping list sharing. Maybe setting up nextcloud on my own server is less of a hassle_…
I have Linux with GNOME and Android and my partner has iOS and Windows and all the CalDav and CardDav stuff works fine. Or at least adressbook and calendar. I couldn’t find a client for iOS for CalDav notes and tasks.
Same. The basic stuff works and i managed to replace recipes with nextcloud cookbook but its quite heavy caldav notes and tasks support on ios would be wonderful but i couldnt find something that integrates into our workflow and systems.
CalDAV note support is very rare on Android too. I think jtxBoard is the only app that does it and it needs DAVx5 to work.
It’s a terrible pity, it would be great to be able to sync notes to CalDAV if you’re using it for events and tasks and contacts but alas nobody seems interested.
Yeah it’s a pitty. For Linux I started writing https://github.com/jeena/jnotes but it will still take a lot of time before it’s usable.
