• SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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    3 months ago

    I agree there’s a lot of problems with unpaid internships and work and such, but I don’t think this is that bad?

    It feels like “hey, if you really like our product and want to show it off, we can send you information and merch, and put you in touch with higher ups.”

    I’d complain if Microsoft or Google started doing this, because they are huge megacorps with deep pockets, but Framework seems like a small company that can’t really afford huge marketing departments. If people want to devote their time to a cause they beleive in, more power to them.

    They also aren’t doing it with the promise or threat of something, which is an issue with a lot of unpaid work. The people they’re targeting know exactly what they are getting into, and that they are doing it for their own reasons.

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      3 months ago

      a cause they beleive in

      profitable companies are causes now

      Profitable companies don’t get to have “volunteers.” Non-profits and charities get to have those. This is data collection for product development, and advertising for products.

      This is a reason for me to not buy a Framework laptop.

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          3 months ago

          I won’t even volunteer feedback to companies when they ask for it, and they incessantly ask for it.

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              3 months ago

              I don’t put up with for-profit companies any more than I have to. I don’t support them or do charity work for them. Corporate brands are not out friends.

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                3 months ago

                What non-profit company did you get the computer you are currently using to type these messages from?

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                  Do you think that’s a clever gotcha? I said, “I don’t put up with for-profit companies any more than I have to.”

                  Edit to add: For a free & commercial free & non-profit social media platform with a FOSS focus, there’s a surprising amount of corpo simping going on here.

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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        3 months ago

        Fix Consumer Electronics

        We know consumer electronics can be better for you and for the environment. Unlike most products, ours are open for you to repair and upgrade.

        That’s the “cause” that people believe in. And the volunteers that they are looking for are those that think Framework are the way to accomplish it. Realistically, that problem can’t be solved by a non-profit - Materials, logistics and R&D can’t be done by volunteers. So a corporation is the only reasonable choice for the goal they want to accomplish.

        I’m sure they would love to be able to pay all the people that will volunteer, but they likely just don’t have the money. So it’s either give volunteers something for helping out, or just do nothing and ignore them.

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    Like many others, I have mixed feelings on this. If anyone is stopping by and doesn’t want to read through the linked forum thread, this is frameworks goal:

    This isn’t a program to get people to go to conferences and rep Framework, it’s a program to give people who are already going to conferences and showing off their Framework some swag and opportunities to talk with the team. It’s not assigning work, it’s just saying thank you to people who are excited about Framework and active in the Linux community.

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      Framework is not a FOSS project, it’s not a charity or a non-profit organization, it’s a company. Would you volunteer to work for free at your job?

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    These guys are the Tesla of PC distributors, and the Framework laptop is trash tier Cybertruck equivalent.