Urgh, I use it at least 300 times a day.
From the other thread it seems it’ll just be disabled by default, and enableable if wanted
Sure but youre probably aware that the vast majority of users dont, and for those users its a usability issue.
If you’re referring to touch screen users, then I don’t see how not having copy/pasting work when you plug in a mouse benefits them normally when they don’t have mice plugged in.
Bravo Michael for continuing to farm bullshit drama with clickbait headlines on the most inane topics like “how my DE handles pasting text”
Does Gnome have a proper file picker yet?
You mean “once again”. They had one, but screwed it up. Who the fuck types in the file save dialog expecting it to perform SEARCH?
Middle click paste sucks, I keep accideE&4nry!NAnY6Yfntally activating it in the middle of my documents which is bad when I have st6SFMzZkTR7!b^yuff like passwords copied and don’t notice, so good
KDE and Gnome already have toggles for it, though Gnome’s is in gnome-tweaks because Gnome hates exposed settings.
I’d support unifying behavior between toolkits and apps to provide users with a single point to set their preference, but I use this feature a hundred times a day. I’d also like it to remain the default; *nix desktops should have their own flavor instead of just copying Mac OS or Windows, and middle-click paste has been a part of that flavor for 40 years.
I can live with this one, as long as they let us pick the function
The default paste action is pretty much the only thing preventing anyone from picking a different function for the button. That’s the the biggest reason for reversing the default behaviour.
Ill be very happy when that day comes. Its one of the first things I need to search for how to disable every time i setup a new machine. To me, middle click has always been panning a canvas, and rectangle selecting text in editors. Its always super jarring having it paste text on new gnome machines
I use this DAILY!
I do too but it’s usually unintentional
HOW? In what manner of mouse using are you accidently clicking the paste button?
Two finger scroll on my touchpad and another finger lightly presses it turning it into a middle click paste
That’s interesting. It never does that with my touchpad. I wish it did though.
What desktop environment?
Niri, I think Hyprland did also
TIL: middle click is paste?
It’s one of those things you either use constantly or not at all. Activating the feature intentionally and having it fail is irritating, but activating it unintentionally because you didn’t know it was there could have serious consequences. I mean, I can even come up with cases where the wrong information being C&P’d accidentally into the wrong Web form could result in someone ending up dead.
Given the difference in stakes, “off by default” makes sense for this feature. I wouldn’t call it a dumpster fire, though—more like a relic of a more innocent time.
I never used it, but TIL…
TIL why that exists and how it works after using Linux for five years. I always wondered why someone put a function like pasting but not also copying text on the mouse and never realised you just have to select it since apparently there is a second clipboard. I wouldn’t miss it but it also wasn’t that big of a problem.
I’m just lost why it’s so hard baked into x11 instead of configurable. I don’t want middle click to paste my selections. Yes I know x11 has some history and that it’s a feature, I do not like that feature. I will never like that feature. I want to copy manually and paste manually.
I don’t want my selections to be captured in a buffer.
I’m just lost why it’s so hard baked into x11 instead of configurable. I don’t want middle click to paste my selections. Yes I know x11 has some history and that it’s a feature, I do not like that feature. I will never like that feature. I want to copy manually and paste manually.
I don’t want my selections to be captured in a buffer.
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As someone who likes the middle-click to do mouse relative scrolling, I would be OK with this being configurable on a per-application level.
I don’t think it really makes sense as a “standard”. Blender will never use middle click as paste, for example.
Middle click to paste the X PRIMARY selection predates Blender.
Yes, I do know how old Blender is.
Right,
But just because it was a standard doesn’t mean it made sense as a standard. So when 99% of applications don’t care to adopt the standard, it really only makes sense to let the application space decide what to do with middle click and to fall back on the user’s system configuration if it’s unspecified (which can still be paste if you want it to be imo)
If 99% of applications that run on *nix desktops didn’t want to accept middle-click to paste text where that’s an operation that makes sense, I would agree with you. I do not believe that to be the case.
On the one hand, I’m all for having it configurable per app. But there should also be a global default, so that one doesn’t need to set it for each program. The current proposal sounds as if I would need to activate it once in the compositor (Gnome) and then separately in Firefox. It should probably be centrally handled by the compositor (not sure if this is possible, don’t know how primary selection works on Wayland).
And the keyboard shortcut for primary clipboard paste (
Shift+Ins) is already gone from gtk.- https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/352 (closed)
- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070518 (open)
- There’s a nice Q/A on stackexchange: “Why does Shift+Insert paste from CLIPBOARD in some applications and PRIMARY in others?”
