• WuTang @lemmy.ninja
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    2 years ago

    it has never been a shame for a man to cry. It is a shame to cry for silly things when you are a man!

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      2 years ago

      As a general “rule” : women are beautiful(inside&outside), while men are strong(inside&outside).
      Promoting weak men is a mistake in my opinion.

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        2 years ago

        I don’t understand. Does being beautiful inside make you weak? Does being strong make you less beautiful? I don’t see how any of these characteristics are mutually exclusive. Or is this /s?

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          Lol no, you can be both, and both can be wise/smart, etc.
          But in general, women are more beautiful than men and men are stronger than women, perhaps that people nowadays see egality as uniformity, i.d.k.
          But weakness(, inside and outside,) is a flaw/defect, as is (internal&external )ugliness, and other flaws.

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            2 years ago

            Ok, I have more questions if you don’t mind: Do you interpret relieving your emotions by crying as being weak? Or perhaps feeling emotions as being weak? And do you find women more flawed, because they’re physically weaker than men?

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              2 years ago

              Do you interpret relieving your emotions by crying as being weak ?

              Yeah, obviously, would you say that it’s a sign of strength ?

              Or perhaps feeling emotions as being weak ?

              “Emotion” is a vague term. Some emotions like bravery(, often a borderline foolishness,) are assimilated with strength. Some emotions like the feeling of defeat, self-pity, the lack of resilience, the fear of authority/punishment that makes you betray others/ideals, that’s weak. Always interesting to see how Chelsea Manning is stronger than a lot of men in this regard. Men love to fight, so kinda appreciate to be hurt in a way, and are proud of their scars.
              Some emotions are beautiful, such as the one expressed in poetry, others are ugly and you don’t need examples to get what i mean.

              It’s easier to exclude men from external beauty and women from external strength than it is to exclude them from internal beauty and strength, respectively.

              And do you find women more flawed, because they’re physically weaker than men ?

              We have our qualities and flaws, some women are stronger than some men and some men are more beautiful( inside&outside) than women, and it’s reductive to stop at these two adjectives, as well as obviously erroneous to draw conclusion on an individual from generalities.
              Here’s what i answered to a previous comment if you’re interested :
              Admittedly, beauty is more useful in times of peace than strength, if i count the benefits(, women can give birth and that’s the most important thing in Nature), women have more of them than men, but if we can keep some of our qualities i won’t say no.

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          Not that i care but i’m sure that your comment made sense in your mind, would you mind sharing it with me ?

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          That’s how things are in general.
          Diversity is good, but cry if you want to, i won’t support weakness on my part, and i will keep being annoyed if i encounter a weak man(, just as women may be annoyed by “ugly” women, i.d.k.).

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            2 years ago

            I mean, like, just because something is a certain way, doesn’t mean it should be that way.

            Why is a man showing vulnerability bad? It’s uncomfortable and difficult, doing uncomfortable and difficult things is manly. Or maybe I’m mistaken. What makes something manly and other things womanly?

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              Why would it be better if there were no distinction between men and women ? Or between countries, or citizens ?
              What’s the use of showing your vulnerability, is that something that others like to see ? And it’s not difficult, what’s difficult is to take upon yourself and desire the struggle.
              We’re men, alike rocks, people/life hit us and we don’t move, this has advantages and inconvenients, we generally appreciate women’s sensibility, and i suppose that most of them appreciate to be able to rely on men when they’re needed.
              Admittedly, beauty is more useful in times of peace than strength, if i count the benefits(, women can give birth and that’s the most important thing in Nature), women have more of them than men, but if we can keep some of our qualities i won’t say ‘no’.

  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    I wanted to cry, but I didn’t.

    I was brave instead, and also sad.

    And now I don’t know how to cry or be sad.

    And everything is grey.