Because of the nature of federation posts and comments on LemmyNSFW communities will live on basically forever. However the photos and videos will likely be lost. Some were links to external media and will stick around, some may be cached. But most photos and videos that were uploaded directly to the instance will break when the server fully goes down.
For example: [NSFW, OBVIOUSLY] !boobs@lemmynsfw.com - that link should load fine on your instance. It should look functional just with no new posts. (Note: it’s actually possible to post and comment in these communities still, but only people in your instance will see it)
The images are served from links like these: (mild NSFW) https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/d50379d3-7d64-440c-bcf6-13dbf2b81c1b.webp?format=webp
The fact that the images still load is a somewhat hopeful sign. The server is still running, Lemmy just crashed. There’s still time for the head admin to come back, the data still exists. This seems unlikely though as the other admin says they haven’t heard from them since October.
So there’s a small window to archive this stuff, if you’re interested. Between now and whenever the media server crashes or gets shut off for non-payment.
I do miss the amateur content, ngl - people often say to just go to porn sites, and I get it, but there is a reason tumblr, reddit, etc etc always develop a nsfw underbelly and if the fediverse could crack that nut (heh) it would be great imho; although, the more I think about it, OF has killed off the vast majority of ppl just doing it for fun.
There’s always redgifs
Really sucks. It’s hard to find a place other than here or Reddit that doesn’t require a payment or ID verification to post amateur media
I mean I could plug my shit. https://goatmatrix.net/
It’s not super active on the nsfw front but I’m open to it. You’ve just got to hit “hidden from front” on nsfw content.
Any sub exists. Just submit to any topic.Hopefully that plug isn’t unwelcome, but you really can use it.
Isn’t that just another centralized reddit clone like Voat or Tildes? The top/most active communities also aren’t promising… Right-libertarians and Ancaps 😒
Not sure how that would be better than just spooling up another lemmy/piefed instance that allows for NSFW. The big advantage of federation is that the rest of us can continue on even if some instances like LemmyNSFW falter, where as if you ever decided to shut down goatmatrix, that’s it, all of it is gone.
EDIT:
Uh oh…
But just like there are people whose idea of internet fun is complain-tainment, there are people who are on the internet for argu-tainment. Again. They should go elsewhere. I get it. It’s fun for some people. But not every place needs to be a dive bar. Those exist on the internet. Go to them. And the last is similar to the others. I’m trying to find the best way to phrase it, but it is trying to show off how much of a worthless asshole you are. Sounds like an odd thing to do. But again, this is entertainment for some people, and if you don’t show them the door, they will think the place is built for them. And if it is built for them, it can’t be built for the folks at the top of the pyramid. And that’s just who I want to build this place for.
So will these behaviors at the bottom lead to a ban? No. We are testing if a different model is possible. We will ask them to leave and make a conscious choice not value their kind of content. If you show up to someone’s party and start messing up the place, and it isn’t that kind of party, they are going to ask you to leave. If someone does, be a developed human being and just leave. In real life, manners would and should work. So why not the internet?
That seems… Very optimistic.
What behaviors will lead to a ban? Is it so free-speech that someone could start an openly white nationalist or neo-nazi community there? If so, that’s how you get Nazi-bars (which is why Voat failed).
what about erome? also forums like sexandfunforum.info and planetsuzy
Why did it go down forever?
It’s a really caring partner.
(nobody knows what happened, the best we have is that the head admin has been uncontactable since october and now the site is down)
I think the SSL certificate expired
It was throwing a 521 so maybe? As far as I know it’s still just speculation, nobody’s been able to get ahold of the head admin that I’ve seen.
Oh yea, I actually considered trying to run a replacement for a time, I’m still running the stack I setup for it but I decided to stop pursuing ‘productizing’ it and moved on. That stack just became my over-engineered personal instances - https://bestiver.se/
I setup a stack of Lemmy+Mastodon+Linkstack on subdomains, with the intention of selling accounts to people who would benefit from fully controlling their own social media presence…including adult creators. Afterall, they can’t get kicked off of something catering to them. I even setup a shortlink thing like: https://bestiver.se/@patrick
I still have the domain “xxxiver.se”
If you’re wondering why there aren’t other instances catering to that, it’s because hosting that content is expensive (lots of images/video content), time consuming (tons of mod reports), legally problematic (you better respond to mod reports/police inquiries quickly), and there is no simple way to accept payments since everything kicks you off if they know it’s porn related.
I think your other big problem would’ve been that attempting to “productize” it (beyond asking for donations to help with costs), would immediately make everybody else on the fediverse hate you.
My plan was actually to sell accounts to creators for a relatively small fee, and either not sign up free users at all or set up a separate service for free accounts. For the porn one it’d be asking the creators to pay a small fee so they could own their own distribution. Other people could obviously see the content, and creators could interact with lemmynsfw and anywhere else. But by selling accounts it would give them a space where they could interact with the fediverse and know that they are hosted on a thing that is actually paid for without advertising. They can’t get kicked off if they’re the intended users.
It’d also be a way to get funding into paying someone (me) to work on fixing the issues they had in the various fediverse services. That’s how things get built, and bugs get fixed. I care about improving the fediverse and was pursuing a path to get some more funding for it.
Not everything has to be provided for free for it to be a good thing.
If I remember right the images are all hosted on catbox not on lemmynsfw itself. I’m not sure why they’re still accessible, I was never told how the backend was set up beyond that, but it does mean that the images are only available until catbox times them out.
I don’t think so. These pict-rs links are standard Lemmy image hosting.
https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/d50379d3-7d64-440c-bcf6-13dbf2b81c1b.webp?format=webp
Huh. This was from a conversation with said missing admin so I may just be misremembering.
That likely means the server is still up and just the Lemmy containers/just the frontend container is down. The default setup has nginx proxying the /pictrs to pictrs I think.
Porn angle notwithstanding, if nothing else, this should be taken as a sign of the fragility of the Fediverse, and a warning that server communities which are only administrated by a single person (who could get hit by a bus at any time) can disappear in an instance. In order to make the Fediverse more robust against stuff like this, we really need servers and communities to have at least 2 admins with the necessary level of access for handling unforeseen circumstances. A single person going MIA randomly shouldn’t be enough to take down an entire Fediverse instance. (I saw something similar happen with kbin, when one day the site just… went down!)
Now when it comes to the porn side of this, this is also kind of bad news for Fediverse adoption since there are a lot of sex/porn/kind-related communities on Reddit, and now we are kind of without a lot of that stuff.
oh that’s sucks, I was thinking to grow c/pornhwa. If lemmynsfw is permanently shut down, is there any place for c/pornhwa?
I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant to cryyyyy. sad, sad, sad, sad, sad. no words to describe this instance! The world is done, finished, end, caput!
Bummer.
lemmy.ml blocking lemmynsfw by default has been one of the nicer parts about using this server
I have heard the best part of being on lemmynsfw was that .ml blocked them.
not so much of a loss if that was the best part about it lmao
Yeah, I’m all for a place like that existing, but it really doesn’t need to exist in my timeline, which I might scroll while I’m on the bus or such…
