I started my IT career in 2011, I have enjoyed it, I have got to do a lot of interesting stuff and meet interesting people, I will treasure those memories forever.
But, starting with crypto turing general computing from being:
“Wow, this machine can run so many apps at the same time!” or “Holy shit, those graphics look epic!” or “Amazing, this computer has really sped up that annoying task!”
To being:
Yo! Look at how many numbers I can generate!
That brought down my enthusiasm severely, but hey, figuring out solutions to problems was still fun.
Then came AI/LLMs.
And with it, a mountain of slop.
Finding help about an issue has gone from googling and reading help articles written by something with an actual brain to mostly being rephrased manuals that only provide working answers to semi standard answers.
Add to that a general push to us AI in anything and everything, no matter how little relevance it holds for the task at hand.
I also remember how AI was sold to the us at first, we were promised to do away with boring paperwork, so we could get on with our actual job.
What did we get? An AI that takes the fun and creative parts, leaving the paperwork for the workers.
We got an AI that we need to expect to be stealing our work and data at every point, giving us shit work back, while being told that we should applaude it and be grateful for it.
And the worst thing, the worst thing is that people seem happy with it. I keep getting requests to buy another Copilot license or asking for another AI service to be added to our tenant, I am sick of it!
We got an AI that somehow has slithered onto the golden throne and can’t be questioned.
I am not able to leave the tech market at this time, but I will focus on more tangible hobbies going forward.
This year, I have given myself a project, I will try to build a model railway in a suitcase. That will be a Z-scale tiny world in a suitcase.
I have never done anything remotely like it, but I feel like I need something physical to take my mind off tech.
Sorry for the rant, but I just came off of a high from realizing and putting words to my feelings.
That train sounds cool.
I’ll hope it will be cool (:
I’ll try to remember to post a follow up in a year here.
Ask chatgpt what the best way to go about it would be. I’m sure it’ll save you a ton of time!
Microcontroller projects, CAD, and 3D printing were my model train. They got me away from the keyboard warrior parts while still feeding my love for tech and building things.
Honestly building a Voron kit felt like the first time I built a PC, where you know enough to do it but learn a lot along the way. It was great.
I’ll hope it will be cool (:
I’ll try to remember to post a follow up in a year here.
Its not fucking fun to be on the computer anymore. They changed it and now it sucks. It used to be so cool
- Conner O’Malley
Everything is a scam. It feels like no engineers exist any longer. It’s not even just tech it’s everything. I bought a jar from a major retailer and the lids don’t fit right on them.
It’s pretty obvious capitalism has run its course. What i don’t get is the amount of people helping destroy the world they have to live in or worse—they are having kids in a world they are actively making shitty for six figures.
Then they use their kids as the excuse to make the world worse for everyone else! “I can’t afford not to!”
Well, what you actually can’t afford is to keep doing this. Quit working for these public corps. Sacrifice everything to not work for them. I promise you’ll be better off after some pain. Coming from someone with no actual education that made it out you college grads can do it. I believe in you.
And your kids don’t need large Christmas’s and a new car at 16 with private school. They do need a functioning world.
I can honestly say that I dread the future of tech, and the goat farm thing sounds really appealing.
I went to a local store the other day and saw 2 new flock cameras that went up. There was one person manning 8 self checkout stations, and there was a camera watching me scan and bag my own stuff while displaying a live feed of me. I hopped in my car, which automatically turned on GPS and then my phone started giving me “helpful” suggestions like " have you tried out this restaurant nearby?" and “it’s been a while since you’ve been to the pet store to get stuff”. I suddenly felt like a boiled frog, because I don’t remember turning any of that shit on, or being notified about it being turned on, or seeing info about new surveillance cameras going up in the community. At this point, I want to buy some land in the middle of fucking nowhere and disconnect from all that shit, and I legitimately had a low-level panic about all of it.
We should start a community of like-minded individuals who live in the middle of nowhere, prefer simplicity, and communicate through dialup. The dialup thing solely because it’s easy to set up and has a low enough speed to avoid the mess the worlds turned into
“Community” and “Like-minded individuals” are mutually exclusive for my shut-in antisocial ass.
Sounds like you are doing sysadmin work for an public institution or so where people are only bullshitting their jobs. Maybe try moving to something more impactful? Like rail infrastructure or so?
Pivot to OT or telecommunication. Actual telecommunications in any industrial setting is screaming for capable people and is normally focused on providing critical safety systems. You may have to work for a soul destroying Oil and Gas company, but you could also get into rail or power.
That actually sounds quite interesting!
I find telecoms to be interesting.
I really like the work, Equipment tends to be a lot more diverse than bog standard IT, networks and systems more targeted to specific applications, technologies could be anything from ethernet to P2P microwave to satcoms to mobile radio to cellular to SDH/PDH, supported applications/systems will keep you forever learning, work locations can be pretty varied. While the industry generally struggles for staff, breaking in can be tough, but I think so long as you’re a straight shooter and willing to learn you’re generally fine. People transition in from IT all the time.
I’ll have to look into it, thanks for the tip!
I’ll have to look into it, thanks for the tip!
That actually sounds quite interesting!
I find telecoms to be interesting.
For almost my entire career I have been working in the finance industry, my past place of work was amazing, if I get an offer to go back, I would go immediately.
I wouldn’t mind working in IT at a rail company, would be interesting
finance industry
That’s the worst, mate. Just switching to a different filed may improve things. Nowhere is sunshine and rainbows, but I’m I’m in medical tech and not finance. Helping save lives is at least something I believe in, instead of moving money to siphon money.
The problem isn’t the tools, but rather the sociopath executives and the individuals who won’t stick up for themselves. Everyone loses when people don’t stand up for what’s right.
As someone with similar feelings in general and a similar history, I feel you are blaming only the latest and worse effects on tech and of tech on society.
I started my career in parallel with mobile devices and smartphones. The whole idea of new possibilities, new ways to interact with tech, miniaturization, etc., is what called me most as it was a huge field starting and I tried to find my path forward. I’ve seen from close, real close, how an incredible tech, full of possibilities has been slowly been captured by the market capitalists that inevitably always ended up controlling the direction of every company.
This is not caused by crypto, this is not caused by LLMs. The origin is greed and capitalism. Decisions being made to make number go up.
Really, crypto is a fascinating tech, it’s not the fault of the technology that crypto-bros came to conquer everything and misuse it and abused it to make a quick buck.
LLMs are impressive, think about it, we have managed to completely break the Turing test. We have machines that sound so human that mostly everyone is in a constant suspicion that everything they see is made by an LLM. LLMs sound so human that they are full of confidence and mostly always full of shit. Just think about it, AI is just a representation of humanity, what we do with it just represents and highlights the issues in society.
The reality is that those two, have just suffered a faster, the fastest we’ve seen yet probably, tech lifecycle - growth, hype, plateauing, and eventually decline and enshittification of any service related to the tech.
Consider search engines, their demise is not because of AI, AI is just the last blow. I used to be very good at finding what I wanted, I knew how to use the tool to make the best of it. Slowly over the years much as I want, I cannot get the results I want without a lot of effort. I haven’t somehow become shit at it, the tools and the tech have been modified and changed until it has become useless, the whole point is not finding anymore, but making you search as much as possible.
Consider the mobile hardware field as it is now, compared to the years when it started blowing up with all kind of devices and possibilities. The market has been captured, a few companies remain, releasing the same thing over and over with the latest and bigger number each year. Slowly the whole wild world we had of custom roms, has been captured so that if you get out of the fenced field your apps won’t work because it is not safe. Apps check that you are using them in an unmodified and perfectly controlled OS where you own nothing. Apple has always been king of fenced fields, but now Google is doing all it can to imitate it, squeezing in and trying to capture as much of their open field into their very high fenced safe areas. They want to control the source of apps, the developers, and remove the freedom from the devices. It’s crypto and LLMs at a slower pace. Working for so many years as a developer I can feel how I’m more and more tied up to the whims and wishes of companies that don’t pay me the salary, I keep bringing this up and make a safer path for the future but the company that does pay my salary doesn’t care, they just want the latest BS and hyped concepts.
People like you or me, we have a special vantage point. We know how we can still fight that, we know what are the alternatives, we know what the tech could become. We need to bring that knowledge to everyone, keep pushing for FOSS solutions, keep teaching everyone that tech is not difficult, it’s not magic, but it requires learning and education. It requires not falling on the path of less resistance, and fight against lobbying and market capture. It’s tough, when we just get so tired of constantly fighting it. What I think you find so tiring is not Crypto and LLMs but how tech is being guided to its demise, to become a tool for control and nothing more.
I got laid off and now I’m working as a Door guy at some local bars. Im poor but happy.
Copilot’s braindead and flat out wrong comments on PRs are downright dangerous. Drives me nuts. Tired of explaining why it’s wrong.
Search is useless. All the useful blogs, sites and forums are dead or gone.
Watching people panic over losing their jobs for teams I support is depressing. We know what these KPIs and etc are for… and why they suddenly care about them.
Try to distract myself with other projects too.
I feel you. My hobby is electronics. I will be designing some circuits with an old Arduino that I have…
I feel your pain. I started IT in '94. Saw the excitement (AMD breaking the 1GHz barrier, High-speed internet, to name a few), then saw it go downhill just as fast.
This year, I have given myself a project, I will try to build a model railway in a suitcase. That will be a Z-scale tiny world in a suitcase.
I used to make miniature buildings out of things like balsa wood, spackle, etc for D&D. It became a challenge to see how closely I could simulate things like grass, torches, etc.
I’m the only “active tech” at my tiny local shop/“MSP”. I have two bosses who are each “owners” of the company and neither of them can fix their own workstations.
Neither can handle domain DNS changes. Neither of them can migrate mail. Neither of them have taken “support” calls for the last 5 years- instead they’ve transferred everything technical beyond “restart your PC” to me. I’ve seen a few people younger than me around who actually have basic understanding of internet DNS, TCP/IP, but for the most part I’m starting to think that after my generation, the internet will corrode, collapse, and die. I hope I’m wrong, UNLESS the internet continues being handled largely by 5 gigantic, evil corporations- in THAT case I hope it dies.
I’ve been working in tech for about 10 years now as well, and I’m also just feeling tired. I’m a bit sad, because I like my job. I didn’t study computer science or anything in college; I just got work in security because I enjoyed it. It’s sad pretty much knowing it won’t be the same. I don’t really want to offload a lot of the work to an AI in the future.
I’ve been getting more into learning to weld and work with wood. In the next few years I’ll probably consider starting a small custom furniture company.
I feel like this part of the conversation is drowned by the AI hype train and the AI hate train. The part where real people are seeing the real effects of a technology that is actually good, and is likely going to get better, and will have the potential for significant social damage to a large part of the middle class.
Your possible future sounds wonderful, I wish you every success with it.
If I could leave work and keep the same salary, I would…
As for what I would do, I enjoy photography ( https://metapixl.com/stoy ), I would probably buy a reliable car and start driving around europe taking photos of interesting places.
I might also start buying used cameras and set up a local studio called something like “snåljåpens fotobibliotek”, or “The cheapskate’s photo library” where for a monthly fee you can rent older but good cameras and equipment.
My goal is to pay off my house and then accept a lower salary as a trade off for more fulfilling work.
I feel the same. I’ve been wanting out from tech since AI started being big. My current job is sorting through a mountain of slop to uncover all the bugs. It’s a nightmare, but it’s not my creating. I’ve taken to just pushing the problem up. It’s not my fault managers created this problem, so why should I suffer.
But honestly, I don’t give a fuck anymore. It’s just a job to pay for my food. We are part of the assembly line and go home.
That said, I think it might be time for large tech unions.
I am a Swede, we have unions baded on sectors instead of just places of work, we also allow sympathy strikes.
One of the most epic union stories here was in the 90s when Toys 'R Us was opening here.
The Swedish labour market is notoriously unregulated by the government, even more so back then, we had no minimum wage (still effectively don’t), the market was/is mostly regulated between employers and unions themselves with minimal involvement from the government.
So when TRU tried to avoid signing a collective bargaining agreement with the union for storeworkers, the union called a strike so union workers hired by the company stopped going, well the company hired non union replacements and thought that was that.
The Swedish unions did not agree.
Sympathy strikes started.
The transport union refused to make deliveries for TRU, the printers union refused to print material for TRU, and even the financial workers union refused to process transactions for TRU.
A few months later, TRU caved and signed an agreement with the union, and the strikes ended.
So beautiful 🥲. I like sector unions because it gives way let power to companies
I am a Swede, we have unions baded on sectors instead of just places of work, we also allow sympathy strikes.
One of the most epic union stories here was in the 90s when Toys 'R Us was opening here.
The Swedish labour market is notoriously unregulated by the government, even more so back then, we had no minimum wage (still effectively don’t), the market was/is mostly regulated between employers and unions themselves with minimal involvement from the government.
So when TRU tried to avoid signing a collective bargaining agreement with the union for storeworkers, the union called a strike so union workers hired by the company stopped going, well the company hired non union replacements and thought that was that.
The Swedish unions did not agree.
Sympathy strikes started.
The transport union refused to make deliveries for TRU, the printers union refused to print material for TRU, and even the financial workers union refused to process transactions for TRU.
A few months later, TRU caved and signed an agreement with the union, and the strikes ended.







