• juipeltje@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I was watching an lmg clips video about it last night, and personally found it very unreasonable how he said a game that supposedly worked without tinkering, actually needed tinkering because he had to use proton experimental and add a simple launch command. Maybe i’m an out of touch linux user but… what? Is he really saying it’s that difficult to select proton experimental from a gui dropdown menu, and then copy paste a simple command? There are probably games out there on native windows that require more tinkering than that. If you literally want no tinkering at all, you’re probably better of with a console, which is ironic considering linus is mainly a pc gamer.

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      4 days ago

      He’s a moron but yeah copying and pasting a command is beyond normies. They would want to get the command from LLMs for one thing, which would almost guarantee it wouldn’t work.

      • Silver Needle@lemmy.ca
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        Linus is not at all a moron. The trouble with him is that he plays the role of a boulevard journalist. So he constructs bs narratives to have something to talk about, even when it makes absolutely no sense to create these little plot points.

        It seems to have gotten to a point where he can not switch his style off. Seems to have gotten this way since he started LMG.

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          You might be right, I’m not even sure what his actual intelligence level is and I didn’t express myself well. I just don’t like the fuck. He was at his most charming when he did the video with Actual Linus™ and he still kind of got on my nerves. And unlike some others, I do not think his criticism of Linux is constructive. And unlike others, I do not find the gamer Nexus expose on him to be a dismissable hit piece, because to me it showed a shady corrupt business relationship with hardware companies and sloppy benchmarking. Not to mention the sexual harassment accusations, which I find credible.

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      4 days ago

      A useful video would be a bunch of people beating on stuff (off-screen or in an extended cut) to figure out what’s actually easy and reliable for beginners, then presenting that information. It would get approximately 237 views, which is roughly a million fewer than the linked video has at this time.

      What succeeds on Youtube is entertainment first and information a distant second. A video where everyone sat down in a quiet environment with no pressure, installed a reasonable Linux distribution, and had a smooth experience wouldn’t be very entertaining.

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      3 days ago

      it’s that difficult to select proton experimental from a gui dropdown menu, and then copy paste a simple command

      you still need to find the command, to know that you need to use proton experimental, to not be scared away by the name or the idea of going into options, to know how to open a context menu(something that so many people i have seen do not know), to know how to copy and paste something

      these are not difficult things to do, but they require effort and to learn how to do; the average person(that i have encountered) does not want to spend the time and energy to do those things. They want to just double click the game and for it to open

      i dont think assuming “without tinkering” means without changing the default settings is that unreasonable

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        Like i said, i agree that it was stupid to put “no tinkering required” in a review, then proceeds to list tinkering steps. I just feel like the difficulty of said tinkering steps is overblown. Especially when you consider ingame graphics settings, pretty much every game requires tinkering regardless of OS, which is one of the reasons i find myself booting up my ps5 instead at times, and if you’re that allergic to tinkering or can’t do it, then console is your best bet. When we’re talking about these basic kinds of troubleshooting steps, i just don’t believe that’s a linux gaming issue, it’s a pc gaming issue.

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      Part of the problem is that people have gotten lazy. I’d say the biggest advent of people losing touch with the actually tech is windows 7. It had everything at your fingertips. No need to look for drivers, little need for compatibility changes or added set up requirements. Couple that with nvidia automatically adjusting “best settings” for your rig on a per-game basis and you’ve got what we have now. People don’t want to learn and they’ve forgotten how we got here. Unfortunately, click and run seems to be the consumer de facto now and it isn’t going to go away.