• lugal@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Things like apps, media, or art can be more valuable without taking any more resources.

    They take energy and memory on the local devices and in the cloud. Uploading and downloading also does. Better software often needs better (new) hardware. The developers take office space and hardware and energy. Do you want me to go on?

    The bigger question for my is why growth is supposed to be a good thing. With all the technology, we could work less but on the whole, we work more.

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      10 months ago

      But better ones don’t require any more resources than worse ones. So you can increase value with the same resource consumption.

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        10 months ago

        The development of better ones does and so does design, advertisement, …

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          10 months ago

          R&D resources are usually small compared to the efficacy improvements they allow. You don’t need advertisement. Though to achieve sustanability , you’d also need a very long life on products and almost complete recycling.

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            10 months ago

            The topic is growth. There is no growth in sustainability. For your company to grow, you need new features, new customers, … People say this is achievable without resources, I doubt it. That’s what I’m saying.

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        10 months ago

        Games, but games can also just be better and more optimized on the same hardware. It’s just easier to throw more silicon at the problem, and we don’t incentive caring about the planet enough.

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        10 months ago

        I try to use my phones as long as I can and I ran into situations where I couldn’t update or install apps because my phone didn’t meet the requirements