Cruise recalls all self-driving cars after grisly accident and California ban | All 950 of the General Motors subsidiary’s autonomous cars will be taken off roads for a software update::All 950 of the General Motors subsidiary’s autonomous cars will be taken off roads for a software update
Instead of “what number of deaths is acceptable?” Ask, “who is responsible?”
When a human driver in control of a car hits a pedestrian, the human is responsible, not the car.
Who is responsible when a computer driven car hits a pedestrian? Also, whose insurance pays the bill?
Apparently GM thinks killing a pedestrian every 10 million miles is acceptable?
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
In a statement on Wednesday, the GM unit said that it did the recall even though it determined that a similar crash with a risk of serious injury could happen again every 10m to 100m miles without the update.
Emphasis goes on “even though”.
As in “At GM we’re so benevolent that we’re doing a software update even though we think this will only kill someone every 10m miles (which we consider an acceptable murder rate for our cars)”.
How frequently this type of incident occurs is outside the control of GM.
In the crash, another vehicle with a person behind the wheel struck a pedestrian, sending the person into the path of a Cruise autonomous vehicle. The Cruise initially stopped but still hit the person.
But they recalling the vehicles so clearly not.
Unless you’re suggesting that the software update is too make the cars more efficient at killing pedestrians?
Read what they said. That they’re doing the recall even though it’s only 1 per 10m. Implying they think that is an acceptable rate for serious injuries.
Ford thought 180 dead per year was acceptable when it shipped the Pinto. GM looks like a saint by comparison, fuck.
What’s acceptable?
Every 50 million? 100 million?
It will never be perfect, and there will never be no deaths at all, so if there is no acceptable limit you may as well ban self driving car research right now.
The rate of pedestrians killed in 2021 was approximately 1 in every 25,000,000 miles driven manually (8000 deaths and 203 billion miles travelled collectively. Should that be the minimum target?
The acceptable number is zero. For any type of vehicle.
Then we best ban all vehicles
Might as well ban people outright
Ok. If you really think that is the only way to improve the situation, I’m on board.
It really could be zero for pedestrians if we spent the money to ensure no human and vehicle would ever share the same space. It is less about how many humans/miles driven and more about how many humans/cost to avoid sadly.
It really could be zero for pedestrians if we spent the money to ensure no human and vehicle would ever share the same space. It is less about how many humans/miles driven and more about how many humans/cost to avoid sadly.
It really could be zero for pedestrians if we spent the money to ensure no human and vehicle would ever share the same space. It is less about how many humans/miles driven and more about how many humans/cost to avoid sadly.
So, no human driven cars, buses, trains, planes or anything else, then?