I am trying to choose an email provider, to use with my identifying accounts (like banks, gov ids, etc.). I feel that emails for such cases do not need to be end-to-end encrypted, since most information would already be present with banks, gov, etc.
So I was looking at non-E2EE emails - Mailbox and Posteo.
- Between Posteo and Mailbox - which one do you use / is better in terms of privacy?
I noticed that both of these are hosted in Germany. With rise in popularity of right wing party, a bunch of stuff around chat control and verification, and even normal German government support for Israel, I was wondering whether I should look for other solutions hosted elsewhere. Or use Proton / Tuta instead?
Also, I am not sure if any of these companies support right-wing or Israel themselves?
Do you have any suggestions regarding this?
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Posteo markets itself on being green, if that’s important to you.
I’m using Proton Mail and use an alias to sign up for each service. Works well and if you start getting spam you can pinpoint who leaked your data due to to the unique aliases.
I use Posteo, honestly I don’t think it matters much what you choose, anything will be better than Google, encryption is nice but only works if both people have it. Your emails will be as secure as the other address.
I’ve been considering getting Fastmail for how feature rich it is. E-mail isn’t the place for E2EE IMO, but they support using it, they just don’t provide it themselves. If I need end to end I’m using signal or only sharing keys with trusted individuals.
The government isn’t the only threat e2ee protects against. When a non-e2ee service is hacked, the data is free for the taking, if the service is e2ee the data is only available from that moment forward. I’m not going to speak for which provider you should use, but you should reconsider needing e2ee.
The post is a bit misleading. Posteo and Mailbox offer end-to-end encryption through OpenPGP.
Proton offers E2EE through OpenPGP and when communicating with other Proton Mail users.
Tuta offers E2EE only for communication with other Tuta users.
The encryption of incoming and outgoing emails to other providers Proton, Tuta, Mailbox (possibly Posteo too) provide, is not end-to-end encryption, as the mail content is visible to the provider and only encrypted at rest.
There is a good video by “By Default” on YouTube which highlights this.
Whatever you chose, I would recommend making a custom domain. I didn’t make one and now I regret it because I want to switch.
I’d avoid Tuta. Suspended an acct for inactivity and then when I went to replace it (with diff IP and name, no less) I got “flagged for review, cannot send/receive” then they said “send us a message with this address that can’t send supposedly,” and I gave up on them.
Tried proton, and didn’t like that I needed a proxy to use it with my desktop mail client and no option beyond their app on mobile. Wound up moving to Purelymail. It’s a bit quirky, but super cheap, and I haven’t had any issues. I’ve even replicated Hotmail’s sweep feature with a Thunderbird container.
For aliases, I use addy.io.
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I’ve seen a lot of people recommend Posteo but I whould not use them. Because they haven’t enabled DMARC. https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=dmarc%3Aposteo.de&run=toolpage
All major email providers have enabled DMARC. Gmail https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=gmail.com&run=toolpage
Tuta https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=tuta.com&run=toolpage
I’d recommend Tutanota, ProtonMail, or Mailbox.
Posteo has been fantastic for me, but no bring your own domain as some have mentioned a deal breaker if that’s your bag
Super cheap, unsure on any political stances but they embrace being green / sustainable so that’s usually a give away :)
Use it with betterbird and Thunderbird android just works great
