• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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    13 days ago

    The bug reports may not be arriving yet. They will. And when they do, you will face the same calculation the kernel maintainers faced: maintain dead code to satisfy automated reporters, or cut it.

    This could actually be a good thing for software quality.

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      13 days ago

      That’s not kernel policy but LF guidance. From the kernel’s point of view patches still have a high bar to pass to get merged and I don’t think we have enough data yet to see if LLM based submissions to the kernel have a higher or lower error rate than humans.

      I certainly feel the uptick in LLM reports though - one of the projects I’m working on is seeing a deluge of them at the moment.

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        The kernel policy seems to be what I think it is, since LLM slop patches have been merged. Edit: I call it “slop” since it’s LLM code, and I’m aware some use that word differently.

        I find it slightly contradictory to delete code due to hidden bugs on the one end, then insert LLM code at the other rather than hand-craft the code to avoid hidden bugs better.

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          How is that patch sloppy?

          I feel the term slop is being overused to cover anything an LLM has touched. If I ask an agent to re-read a mail thread for me and apply the changes to my tree to review is that slop? Would you feel better about it if I copy and paste from email to code in my editor?

          I’ve just been doing a bunch of bug triage which was mostly driven by the agent although I checked the issues where it had commented. Was that slop? Ironically a lot of the issues where AI generated although for the most part more complete than a lot of the purely human submissions we get. Are those bug reports slop? What about the poorly drafted human ones?

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            13 days ago

            The studies about hidden errors don’t really care about how “slop” the code looks, as far as I understand them. That’s why LLM code is kind of dangerous.

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          13 days ago

          You should look up the genetic fallacy. And using phrases like “hand-craft code” make you look stupid.