• SoftBun@lemmy.ml
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    They also sponsor a far-right influencer in Brazil.

    This guy is literally a grandson of a dictator of the military dictatorship. He was also one of the articulators of the 2023 coup attempt, pressing the military to join

    very cool proton

    edit: giving more context in case someone wants to post this in their subreddit (I won’t): his name is Paulo Figueiredo and he still have a proton vpn sponsor link in every video on youtube.

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    Using Proton always seemed like a bad idea. People come to Proton in order to deGoogle or de-big-tech but then lock themselves into their ecosystem, defeating the entire purpose.
    Not mention how scummy their PR-Team, their CEO and their Business Practices are.
    So many Proton sponsered content creators spread lies about how Proton Mail is supposedly E2E encrypted or how Proton VPN is supposedly a privacy and security tool.
    Time and time again they have lied about how much data they have and how much they have disclosed to investigating agencies.

    The only way I could ever undestand someone using Proton Mail would be to use their service but behind your own domain, such that migrating away stays easy.

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      I did this myself in 2023, coming from google. And have now dropped their Eco system for all disconnected privacy friendly options like mailbox.org and bitwarden for example.

      But I also use my own domain and a ton of alias email addresses so wasn’t locked to my proton email address in any meaningful way

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      Has there been some revelation that ProtonMail isn’t E2EE?

      Or that their VPN isn’t a privacy tool?

      Every so often I’ll see these claims made by random people on the internet but there’s never any truth behind them. It’s usually just some non-technical person who doesn’t really understand the first thing about technology.

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    I was afraid Proton would eventually go down the far right route… and it seems like my fears came true

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      It still means that my subscription fees are ending up in the pockets of a far right “influencer”. Fuck them for doing me dirty like that.

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    ceo praised trump then deleted the tweet. it should have been the first warning sign he is a fascist.

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      To avoid you all a trip to reddit:

      You’re right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened.

      Vincent Lapierre’s channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community.

      Proton operates globally, and while our services are available to everyone regardless of political views and our mission is consistent everywhere, our knowledge of every local media landscape is not. In this case, our team didn’t have enough context about the French space to make a well-informed decision, and that’s on us.

      We also want to be straight about what a placement like this is and isn’t. An affiliate or sponsorship arrangement is a transactional placement for awareness, not an endorsement of a creator’s views. In the case of Vincent Lapierre, this was a single video sponsorship, not a partnership.

      But that distinction doesn’t excuse what happened here. The responsibility to vet who we put our name next to is ours, and we didn’t meet it this time. We’re now reviewing our vetting process and our guidelines for our marketing agencies to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

      If you see something like this again, tell us. We rely on your feedback and vigilance.

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      why is this comment so buried. An official response should be the top comment, and as of writing this only has 2 upvotes

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      anti fascism means anti fascist no matter what. The fact you don’t care about right wing extremism doesn’t mean shit to me. Keep on using your fascist software, while not caring. Your “convictions”, or lack of, means fuck all to the world

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        what if Proton mail sponsored far left extremists and censored criticism on their subreddit, would it be okay then?

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            Got it, so it was never about free speech, it was about whose speech gets protected

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              Yeah, “free” speech that spreads fascist propaganda should be dealt with and censored. World views that are centered around hate, xenophobia, ignorance, colonialism/imperialism, violence, anti-immigration/emigration, and “racialism” “”science”” like Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy and their modern sympathizers should be heavily censored and criticized.

              The freedom of speech isn’t supposed to protect you from lies, rather gives you the right to lie and cheat as long as you don’t break the arbitrary rules. It also doesn’t protect you from being personally socially persecuted by your employer, neighbors, friends and family, etc. In fact, it’s meant to protect your right to believe whatever cool and just or whatever stupid thing you want to believe.

              You say “oh so it was never about free speech then huh”; but no. It was never about just being able to say whatever. I personally don’t think the right to “free speech “ should give you the right to lie to children and propagandize them & then sell them stuff with cool words and fancy colors. You can’t go into a business and threaten them because they can enforce that, and it’s a GOOD thing that your “freedom of speech” doesn’t protect that.

              People can’t even say free Palestine or Fuck ICE, your idea of “freedom” is far different than mine. Freedom for fascists is a death sentence for everyone.

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          If your sense of right and wrong depends on a map or a label, then I don’t think you have principles… you just have a tribe