• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    It feels so needlessly aggressive. Valve openly stated that there are alternatives to the Steam Machine, and they aren’t trying to own the market. Calling your prebuilt the “Steamroller” is kind of a dickhead move. That’s like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it “Fuck your Chalupa, bitch.”

    ITT: People who have no idea how marketing and advertising work.

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      That’s not really how I read it. Clearly they are leveraging vale products, (steam os) so include steam in the name. They probably want this name to evoke strength and power, so what’s something with steam in the name that is powerful? A steamroller.

      I don’t think it is meant to roll steam!

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        They specifically advertise it as an “upgradable alternative to the Steam Machine”; with that in mind, assuming the name isn’t intended to evoke comparisons to Steam Machine is kind of ridiculous, no?

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      Eh, I see your point, but it feels pretty tongue-in-cheek to me. Steamroller is just a cool name that implies the thing is a workhorse.

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      9 days ago

      I’m not sure I’d be able to order a “fuck your chalupa, bitch” with a straight face, but I’ll try.

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      8 days ago

      What about making a spherical system and calling it the Steamcube?

      I think it would get massive amounts of free advertising. Not sure if it would sell because I wouldn’t want it.

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      What’s the problem with it, exactly? As long as it lives up to its promise and is a better machine, why shouldn’t they market it as a better machine or make direct comparisons?

      It’s not even saying the steam one is bad, just that it is better.

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      That’s like Del Taco coming out with a deep friend taco shell and calling it “Fuck your Chalupa, bitch.”

      I would go to Del Taco right this moment if this were real.

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      Or, theres only so many ways you can make a punny name on Steam OS.

      But of course that doesnt allow for righteous indignity.

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    9 days ago

    And unlike Nintendo switch, you can play games you bought 15 years ago… and use other stores or emulation

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    I’m on the reservation list for a Steam Machine and personally have no regrets, but I’m so happy these exist. I don’t think it has to be a big competition, but between not appealing to a mass audience and have limited stock, the Steam Machine may have inadvertently ushered in a prebuilt Linux PC revolution, and that’s a wonderful thing.

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      7 days ago

      inadvertently

      I suspect Valve knew what they were doing, and while they probably care more about having prebuilts with Steam preinstalled and convenient to use, they included desktop mode in SteamOS and made sure the steam deck was open to tinkering.

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    Not that it’s a bad thing, but did anyone ever offer something like Bazzite before?

    OEMs were waiting for SteamOS because it shifts the OS support to Valve instead of DIY, but I wonder if anyone tried before SteamOS was ready.

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      Iirc there’s a pre built company that offers mint, but I haven’t seen anyone offer a gaming distro.

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    9 days ago

    Kinda weird that it has such similar specs, I would’ve expected they’d want to do something more differentiated

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    8 days ago

    I can’t see the size listed anywhere, this is just a mini itx junk box.

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      8 days ago

      From what I can tell, the PC in the image is built in the Jonsbo D32 PRO MESH Black, which is listed as “D396×W207×H314mm”. However, the META PCs page says it’s built in the Jonsbo D32 Black, which doesn’t quite exist (the Jonsbo D32 models are PRO Black, PRO MESH Black, and STD Black). Thankfully, they are all the same size and the only differences are the side panel (mesh vs glass) and whether or not it has a moveable spine for variable spacing (PRO vs STD).

      Though, the META PCs website should really be more specific in their specs list.

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    Thats about what i’ve been saying… 200 dollars more, and you get a vastly superior product over the steam machine…Which seeing as the steam machine is a luxury good, and not a budget concious/performance per dollar build… I’m perfectly okay with suggestion spending an extra 200 dollars for something markedly superior.

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      Pretty sure Valve thinks the same. They’d rather their ‘consoles’ establish a performance floor than a ceiling. They don’t want to make hardware - they don’t want to make an OS, it’s just what’s required to compete with Microsoft (who’s actively threatening them since they announced the Windows Store for Windows 8 and Xbox game pass at the time)

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        8 days ago

        and that performance floor is heavily reliant on FSR.

        Which is bad for everyone. We’re already seeing games that need FSR even at 1080p because of shit optimization. We don’t need this normalized and set as a standard.

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      Most of us can get a vastly superior product than the Steam Machine for the cost of a Steam Machine.

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        Most of us, sure, but we’re not the target market, and it’ll be bulkier, it’ll require more work to set up, it’ll be louder or hotter, it’ll have to be optimised for gaming rather than games being optimised for it - it will trade all of the steam machine’s selling points for raw power.

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    7 days ago

    Wonder what percent is the chance you get it shipped with the CPU cooler plastic cover still attached

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    7 days ago

    dumb people have always bought crap. just because components are more expensive doesn’t change anything–a savvy computer user is always going to go for pre-built. i’d personally take out a loan before i bought a meta pc even if steep discounts are on the menu.

    it also makes me think that all the conspiratorial talk is just talk. maybe all these companies are conspiring to raise prices so they can sell you garbage like this pathetic excuse for a pc.

    but that doesn’t fit into the ‘all rich people are geniuses’ narrative. greed doesn’t require intelligence. even someone with an intense hunger and a 50 IQ is gonna try and put their hand into your burger king bag and swipe a fry or two.