I’m really curious as to whether this will impact the build out of the surveillance state, particularly in regards to Flock and other ALPRs. Or is a phone’s location history somehow sacrosanct while an image on a camera is not?
IDK if it will directly impact Flocks - although I don’t know it won’t. But at the very least, it helps build momentum. There is a national level, bipartisan bill to heavily restrict ALPR now. The more legal momentum there is vs related issues like geofence requests, the easier it is for that to pass. Also a lot of municipalities have already banned ALPRs locally, so that also helps build momentum.
I fucking hate ALPRs.
More of us doing the stronger we all are!! The more of us there are the stronger we are!! Unity, coordination, and logistics!!
Shouldn’t this also apply to cameras and audio recording devices going up everywhere without consent?
Shouldn’t this also apply to cameras and audio recording devices going up everywhere
It only applies to the government, by requiring 4A protections for geofence requests. A judicial warrant will be needed for the cops to go to Google or w/e and say, “Give us everyone in this area on Tuesday Aug 9th”. Which ofc will include innocent ppl along with the accused. It won’t directly efffect private recording and data collection.
There are tricky issues around private collection. Conflicting rights between parties, even. Anyway, it’s possible that this + other cases like Carpenter v. United States could restrict gov purchases of loc data on the open market, not just direct requests to Google. NAL, and IDK how it might go. I imagine we might see further lawsuits as this bubbles through the legal system and there are 2ndary issues that arise from it.
I’m wondering if FBI/NSA/CIA will actually honor the ruling, assuming it holds?
Doubtful. All they have to do is cry “terrorism” and they’re allowed to do whatever they want.
Yup.
Edit: or “espionage.”
Awesome, nice to hear some rare good news in this area
What about States with 2-party consent laws? I’ve often wondered if its ever going to become a class action suite for all the audio monitoring, and not just the audible trigger words for home assistants. I’m talking anytime you have a conversation about something you see ads. I’m really sick of me and my wife’s or kids’ arguments becoming divisive ads that pop up moments later which only adds fuel to the fire
A small breath of fresh air
Hey but all of you here dont disengage stay focused, grow the movement, and keep doing. The more of us doing the more we can make better for this, and many other things. We need a Fluxer Discord-like community to inform, discuss, collaborate and coordinate in real-time
Maybe protect from the raw public. But from private brokers, heavily doubt it.
