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    1 month ago

    The hamburger menu, the account picker and the huge share pill, they all look exactly like that!
    Congrats OP this meme actually annoyed me 😭

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      Yesterday describing how to do a thing to my wife over the phone “The menu button” “There is no menu button” “It’s a hamburger icon” “What?” “3 lines” “How is that a menu?”

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        I often help my parents use their phones.
        It is so hard when every app they use has its own garbage bespoke design language and you get such pearls as:

        • Buttons and tabs can be any combination of Colored Square, White Square with Outline or Grey Text on White Background (and they switch every screen!)
        • Modals without a scroll bar so you can’t tell there’s a “Confirm” button at the bottom
        • Awfully confusing share dialogs before the Native system share sheet opens
        • Inconsistent iconography
        • Overflow menus hidden behind 3 dots, 3 lines or neither

        I feel like it’s almost second nature for tech savy people to wade thru this crap but for your average granny this shit is practically unparseable.

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          It’s because tech savvy people see digital products like old people would see a thingamajig out of a woodshop. We have an inherent understanding that the thing we’re looking at had a creator intention behind it, as well as an understanding that they may have done a poor job implementing that intention. We understand more underlying patterns to look for. We have a deeper intuition of what is “right” and that any “wrong” can be infinitely different than any other “wrong.” We know the internet isn’t prod; the internet is like your feature branch on steroids. We understand that the internet often uses fancy tricks to scale, and those tricks can lead to behaviors which seem to contradict causality (e.g., distributed systems, you receive a message before it was sent because of eventual consistency). These are problems we’ve been exposed to over and over, forced ourselves to work our way through them, even built some of the machines that had these issues.

          Old people had similar advantages with things like housework, woodwork, automotive work, …

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          And then we have insanity like Instagram, where the logo opens a separate area

          How the hell does the logo ever load anything but the home screen?

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            I think a great test is grab a 5 year old budget phone with low screen resolution and slow CPU, and hand it to a few people with your app on it for a few minutes. See what they complain about or can’t figure out.

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            If you want to help the grannies of the world, grab an older budget device with a not so big screen resolution and crank the device scale / text size super high.
            Man, you would not believe what havoc that causes on most apps.

            I know responsive design is hard but damn…

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      Valid on both side, honest soft and services vs which are not, the worst malware is mostly FOSS which you can find in the onion. Also nowadays the biggest FOSS catalogue is by Google Labs and Microsoft, FOSS to make money. There are others, like the famose Irfanview, free proprietary soft and absolute trustworth and definitively the best which you can find, there don’t exist a real OpenSource alternative.

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    To be fair the left part also once was “Software, by corporation” (i.e. Photoshop CS and prior)

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    It has gone the same way as physical goods. My parents still have appliances (food mixers things like that) that still work and they bought them in the 1980s. Good luck getting anything to last that long these days.

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      I’m sorry to say this, but this is survivorship bias. We produced plenty of crap that broke a few months after use even 50 years ago, it’s just that you don’t notice the crap because it was thrown away after it broke and all you see now is the stuff that surprisingly made it for decades. That’s not to say that enshittification and planned obsolescence is not a thing, it’s just not as extreme and “we used to build things that lasted” as people would like to believe.

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    It kills me that fucking everything is a fucking website these days, even “desktop” applications.

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      Though not having to download and install a random program from the Internet, with full access to your hard disk, is often nice. When running in the browser, it is automatically sandboxed hard.

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        And it kills all the performance… And the security, and the privacy, as everything needs to fucking call home to be able to work.

        And, why the fuck would you build over Electron or Tauri? That’s just being retarded, desktop apps should be done with actual native graphic toolkits, not that fucking performance, resources, space, security and privacity that “hybrid frameworks” are.

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      See, you’re thinking like a user. You gotta think like a CEO tho. There’s no AI button popup, the AI features are automatically activated when you use the tools. You gotta go into the settings and explicitly disable automatic AI actions. And only THEN do you get the AI popup to pwease use the AI features.

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    I’ve been seeing more and more open source disclosed source software that fits the category on the right…

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    Don’t think that open source is immune to this, OnlyOffice has an AI button and many OSS devs are integrating Claude into their dev nowadays. It’s getting annoying.

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      tbf ai can be useful, and will be even more useful once we optimize it enough that you can just run good models locally, without being a slave to the llm coorps. even if they will technically always have the “frontier”, most of these applications don’t really need the best of the best

      we should strive to achieve that since it won’t go away, and you can’t really fight it long term

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        No, AI just can be harmful.

        Read this

        TL;DR: AI is just a works-stealing machine that makes code less secure and displaces people of their works (or removes their opportunities to get a job).