Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

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    2 months ago

    When I joined Lemmy, Lemmy.ml didn’t really feel different than Lemmy.world to me.

    Maybe I’m taking crazy pills but it’s like they got more propagandist on purpose. As if they decided to up the anthem because .grad got defederated by all sane instances… And what’s propaganda good for if it doesn’t reach the right people?

    Same with tankies having lemmy.world accounts. It’s not ironic, it makes sense.

    Now Lemmy.ml became their “outreach” instance, where they ban everyone who criticizes them (even on another instance) or even for downvoting (Dessalines did that because his favorite poster ‘cowbee’ got downvoted by “bots” too much. Then they opted out on lemvotes, so no more checking yourself).

    For an outsider it looks like everyone agrees with them because they upvote each other and every critic got either banned or they blocked them themselves and I’m starting to think this might be by design. I wonder how many users are banned from .ml, while still retaining general visibility through federation.

    Isn’t it basically how Russia and China operate? Keep your own people isolated in a bubble where only your narrative is accepted and at the same time invade other spaces to manipulate their opinions?

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        2 months ago

        We’re officially on the decline. A laughing stock to our enemies and a pariah to our allies. Even if the American people pull off a miracle somehow in 2028 and elect someone like Ocasio Cortez to the presidency. No one in Europe should just forgive everything and get all buddy buddy with us again. We’ve only shown we cannot be trusted. The ball has been passed keep your eye on where it is, not where the ball was.

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    2 months ago

    This post made me curious so I took a look at my block list, and almost all of my blocked accounts are from .world. I’ve only blocked two .ml users. I wonder how much that varies by instance.

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      2 months ago

      Well lemmy.world is statistically one of the larger instances. So that’s not strictly unusual. And thankfully some of the worst from ml tend to stay in their Echo Chambers being self-aware enough.

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    2 months ago

    It sure would be swell if people could, at the very least, elevate to a 2d view of politics. Hearing the majority of quadrants II, III, and IV all referred to all “far-left” is confusing at best.

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      That’s because adding a 2nd axis does almost nothing to mitigate how insanely reductionist political spectrums are. People are not that simple x1,000,000,000.

      Nothing wrong with building models with limitations but one cannot test the political compass to measure how reliable it is at predicting future results.

      As such I genuinely think the frustration you’re experiencing is because the people who relate to it the most tend to view people over simplistically, usually because they can’t empathize with any human experience that isn’t theirs. Aka conservatives.

      Like me as a progressive can empathize with my conservative family that’s never been exposed to trans people and only fed anti-trans bs. But flip the script and they cannot fathom why I don’t go to church or vote conservative like a good christian. I know because they’ve told me.

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        2 months ago

        2nd axis does almost nothing

        In 1d about 2/3 of the political spectrum is being called the same thing. Elevating political discourse to where we are not calling tankies and social libertarians the same thing seems like more than “almost nothing” to me.

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    2 months ago

    Why not just use your subscriptions? People use all and then act all entitled when they have to deal with everything. It’s weird.

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      2 months ago

      Nobody is acting entitled. Maybe with small size of lemmy, opting out is better than subscribing to individual communities?

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        2 months ago

        bingo.

        not everyone wants to live in an echo chamber. but we also don’t want to be blasted in the face with crazy people who tell us to kill ourselves because we own a car.