• zcd@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?

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      I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:

      Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy

      https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/

      It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.

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        Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by “power-mad” mods, some people just eat what they’re fed.

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            Only partially, it was stated in lots of places and ways that it was in protest of the API pricing changes, and of the reaction of Reddit admins.

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      Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).

      I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.

      I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.

      In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).

      I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)

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        I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near

        I don’t. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?

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          11 months ago

          I don’t disagree with you!

          I just would like to see certain niche communities grow here too because Lemmy is great and (so far) it feels like the conversations here are nicer, so I’d like people to move here to make Lemmy even better

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            Fair point.

            There’s nothing wrong with Lemmy growing in an organic sustainable way, but I dislike the attitude that lemmy ought to be a reddit replacement or that lemmy should grow from the ashes of reddit.

            Lemmy should be it’s own thing with it’s own culture and history and communities.

            I get a bit peeved when lemmy users (not necessarily you) get a bit obsessive about transferring communities to lemmy from reddit. Just focus on creating good content for Lemmy and forget about the rest.

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      🙄

      Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent hours.

      Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.

      Neither of the services have a lot of OC.

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    I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.

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      Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.

      I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.

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        Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.

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      I did the same, but athough I love this place, there’s still a huge scarcity of contents. Sometimes, as a lurker, to find more stuff. Here we’re just an handful, thus I cannot still find here what I used to find on Reddit.

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        What is really lacking is all the very specific communities centered around common interests. The more specific the harder, especially if it’s not a traditionally nerdy subject. I mean, there’s an obvious bias, and I won’t pretend I am not part of it.

        Those used to have dedicated forums, but Reddit manage to capture them all for convenience, and now very few subsist. A good part of what’s left has been abandoned to AI spambots.

        Part of this activity is now on discord, but the invite structure isn’t great for those. It makes this content hard to discover and impossible to search if you’re not aware of it.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.

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      I sometimes use Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.

      Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.

      I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.

      Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer

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        As an example, I don’t understand people decrying reposted content from reddit. Also we have Risa, they don’t.

        But reposting is literally what reddit is too. And how it got started, reposting and bot comments from Digg. At least here you lot are all great to talk with.

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          r/Risa actually started on Reddit (source: I created it) and the mods who didn’t quit for Lemmy decided to reopen, but the Lemmy version is definitely the more active and superior of the two, IMO.

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        My only problem with Oppenheimer is that they should have issued earplugs upon entering the theater. Shit hurt my ears.

        Like, I get that bombs are loud, but I don’t need to actually feel pain and probably damage my hearing to get the picture.

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      This is so true, when you go there now it’s full of “reply guys”, gatekeepers and trolls. There’s little to no sense of community and the money grabbing is even more upfront and obvious.

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      I had a specific problem today that googling didn’t help (it was a google account problem, go figure). I added reddit to the search terms and clicked into reddit for the first time in months. All I can say is that their UI is purposely horrible. Like, so fucking bad.

      I would rather join tiktok than use reddit at this point. That should sound like sarcasm, or hyperbole, but it isn’t. Lemmy is feeling like the last social media network I’ll join, and as soon as lemmy gets to the toxicity levels of reddit, which no offense but I feel will be soon, I’m probably going to be the weird person that just uses their phone to call their family, utility companies, and watch hardcore anal fisting, footing, and prolapsing videos.

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        Whoa, I was with you there until the last bit.

        In all seriousness, I do feel like Lemmy (and oddly, this community in particular) is quite toxic. There’s a lot of shouting matches and aggressively partisan one side vs. the other commentary and voting. Even on Reddit there was more civility that encouraged discourse.

        Here on Lemmy—and to continue your theme of closing a comment with an awful visual—it’s often a bunch of circle jerking.

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          I noticed immediately that Lemmy was far less vitriolic than reddit was, but that seems to be changing quickly.

          Some of my comments are entirely satire. Some are formal, but a lot of them are my not-so-hard takes or opinions on general bullshit. One of the first comments I made on lemmy a few months ago was still how I feel about social media. Once the “/s” is necessary to distinguish jokes from reality in a community, hate has already won.

          While a lot of my comments are generally well received, I’ve been finding that my purely satirical comments have been being disliked at increasingly larger rates, seemingly because users aren’t sure if I’m joking or not. Maybe it’s the audience changing or maybe my satire isn’t landing, but that leads me to something worse.

          What I find is a more dismal indicator is that my inoculous opinions aren’t being refuted, I’m just being called stupid for having them. I don’t think I’ve outright insulted someone, or called someone stupid since I was an 11 year old on AIM, but that is what seems to be becoming the norm on lemmy.

          Now I’m not saying i can’t take the bullshit. Ill embrace it when given, but if this place was supposed to replace reddit, or be a more free and accepting group or communities, it’s failing. Newcomers aren’t going to stay here long if we can’t get along, and communities aren’t going to thrive with toxic echo chamber tendencies.

          Anyway, if anyone wants to have tongue in cheek banter, too bad. I’ll be watching Latex Angel and hotkinkyjo videos. HKJ can fit entire human leg in her torso.

          Edit: I also seem to have a follower.(?) I find it odd that most of my comments have a single downvote. Maybe I’m wrong, but if I’m not, downvote away stranger. At least I know you care about me.

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            Are you my alter ego? I feel exactly the same way!

            In many subreddits that I used to follow, there was that kind of healthy banter. I genuinely appreciated that there was a community where the collective mindset was to encourage constructive conversation, even if the content of the discussion wasn’t something you’d necessarily agree with.

            Looking back, I appreciate how much effort it must have taken to create and foster that space. Lemmy is unfortunately, from my experience, a much more toxic place. It would be great to see the majority of readers adopt a mentality of voting based on discourse. I know that I try to do my part…

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    11 months ago

    Oh yeah I feel soooooo defeated and crushed just like soooooo sad that I have to be here and not with spez

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    I’m almost glad they did this. It cut my social media time down drastically, and really nothing of value was lost.

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    Reddit didn’t do shit. Lemmy and Kbin crushed it by existing as alternatives. People who were unhappy just went there and settled.

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    To be honest, the quality of content went down even years before this spez/API thing started. It’s like Reddit got more polluted with shit even tho some quality stayed intact. The time was ripe for a change is what I felt anyways. So it was nice to learn more about the fediverse, and easy to move here because of all of this.

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      I agree, however, for my use cases little to none of that quality content came here and I’ve struggled to get it through other channels. My local subreddit I’ve taken a peek at and it’s as active as ever, along with a few others that are top of mind.

      I’m glad to have learned about the fediverse but it is, currently at least, something different and I’m disappointed I might work in a quick web based scroll through some key subs.

      Honestly the same thing I used to do with Facebook before it became a total and complete wasteland.

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    Reddit crushed itself more than anything. Sure they ended the protest, but that place is a ghost-town now, all that’s left are the bots and politcal propaganda pushers. Stale links that are several days old populate the front pages of the big subs.

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      So… Just like Facebook which is the biggest SoMe platform in the world?

      I don’t think reddit cares, as long as user numbers stay roughly the same. They did.

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    I deleted my account and it was liberating. Nowadays I only go there when I want to look up something for a game on Google.

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      Unfortunately, the vast storehouse of information on Reddit makes it impossible to remove it from your life completely. Of course, a lot of that was built up before the douchebag decided to kill third party apps and tell Reddit users that they didn’t really matter that much to him. You mean the people whose comments built your site brick by brick? Okay, sure. Why would they be important?

      If I’m that unimportant to you, I can be unimportant elsewhere.

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        Almost every info you find on Reddit can be found elsewhere. After all, Reddit is an aggregation machine, but it doesn’t produce that much unique content.

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      I use a 3rd party API modded app with a burner a and check on niche communities that Lemmy doesn’t have yet…I do not comment, upvote or engage.

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    All reddit did was unmask themselves a little but only for those with their eyes open. Social media is close enough to a cult operation utilizing addictive behaviors and conditioning to control people. People are scared to leave their church and be shunned. Reddit is just another exploitative techbro run business. It isn’t a social enterprise or open source community and it is weird that volunteers invested so much of their time and effort propping up shareholder value instead of contributing to real communities.

    Plenty of independent thinkers left and found federated alternatives or walked away. The predatory and manipulative nature of social media was bad enough when it was all about controlling and manipulating the masses but now it is also a huge machine learning harvesting operation. The only people who really benefit are the ultra rich.

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    I deleted my Reddit accounts on the morning of the apicalypse, I still read Reddit though, but Lemmy has mostly replaced my social media use, and I spend more time on Lemmy than on Reddit these days.

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    Hey, I’m over here in Methadone Reddit, getting by. It’s not as fun as Reddit used to be, but after the bug-eyed lemur boy decided to be a leading tech giant™ and fuck over his users in the process, I decided it was time to amscray. Sorry, King Julien. It was fun for a while, before your embarrassing power trip, but now you’re just going to have to kiss my mad-ass-gasgar.