I have my problems with Meta, but I’m hoping this will help Mastodon grow

  • DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So the hate for this is now gone and replaced with praise? What happened to all the posts about how this is an attack on TNT frediverse when Meta first announced this integration?

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      8 months ago

      My stance is still a hard fuck no to Threads entering the fediverse.

      Edit: My reasoning can be read in my old comment here. It’s all still applicable in regard to meta/Threads federating.

      There’s no logical reason to give them the benefit of the doubt or have unrealistically positive expectations given their overwhelmingly consistent track record.

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        8 months ago

        Wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out 99% of them were written by ChatGPT or whatever FBs equivalent is.

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          8 months ago

          There does seem to be some real voices and understanding with some of the comments, so probably a mix of paid and chabot. If chatbot is that good, we are really in some serious trouble.

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            8 months ago

            For 3 to 4 sentences LLMs are indistinguishable from humans.

            You don’t start noticing the idiosyncrasies until it gets a bit more repetitive and loses coherence during longer texts.

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        8 months ago

        Is it really so bad that people (or rather instances) are allowed to choose who to federate with? Currently instances with spam and other unwanted commenters get constantly defederated with. Threads will just be another one of them, while some people are happy to get more content. Or am I missing something?

        Edit: I read your point about EEE and the destruction of the community, but we currently also have multiple communities here on lemmy which are quite extremist and mostly blocked. I’m still not convinced people who currently use the fediverse will switch to Threads. But maybe I’m too optimistic (altough XMPP largely died with Google defederating, other systems like matrix show that there’s still demand for federated messaging).

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          8 months ago

          To be clear, I want it to be users deciding on Lemmy too. Also, people already here moving to threads wouldn’t be the problem, we’re small in comparison to them. It would be a few things:

          • They would bring in a huge party of users that would take it over and overwhelm the current users. It would be like a cruise ship of tourists taking over a small town and breaking everything for the current residents.
          • They could post to Lemmy, but we can’t really post to Mastodon. They’re going to send ads our way disguised as content, guaranteed.
          • If they can manipulate the users from Mastodon, it’s going to get out of hand fast. They have teams of devs and psych engineering to accomplish that.
          • This is volunteer ran, do we have enough energy to fight Meta when they try to enforce something?
          • Can they manipulate Activity Pub software because we’re a small team of devs? If they can, they will.
          • One person mentioned them having instance owners sign NDAs. What’s up with that?