When I join threadiverse (summer 2023), soon everyone was talking about Threads and how it was about to destroy the whole thing.
Then nothing came of it and the whole convo kinda vanished.
Why didn’t threads destroy threadiverse already?
Threads still hasn’t actually fully connected with the fediverse, they are working on that, and until yesterday they weren’t live in Europe yet, so it wasn’t a real alternative for many people. That is changing drastically.
This post sounds to me exactly like people’s reactions to Brexit. They were like “see, it’s not to bad” for the whole time when nothing was implemented yet. And then it actually went live, and everything went to shit. Keep an eye on when things actually go live the way they plan.
The issue was about threads implementing federation to connect to mastodon, lemmy and other networks that use that system. They did not implement it then, but said they would do it in the future. The topic has come up again because they announced they’re doing it now.
I saw the word “survive” and for a second I thought we were talking about Threads, the postapocalyptic movie that scarred a generation.
I need more coffee.
Seems easy enough to answer: why has covid not wiped us out and is it not a problem?
The answer is it could have wiped us out and might still if we throw away all our carefulness.
Threads has at least 10x the users of the whole fediverse and they will have a huge majority, governed by meta a non democratic entity, taking part in a democratic system. Only a fool wouldn’t see this become a problem.
And it already has been in the past. It even has a name: EEE embrace, expand, extinguish. Its what google did with xmpp.
So yes, the problem is still there although it never goes as fast as it seems at first.
Microsoft did EEE alot
indeed. thats why its actually pretty good we’re going through this now since we have the opportunity to take this sh*t seriously and try to stop that practise
I’m curious about the resources required to federate with threads. It would utterly dwarf every other instance in every capacity, 1000fold. Wouldn’t this put a fair bit of financial pressure on every federated instance?
The resources required by federating depend on how many people follow each other across those two instances and how much these post. Just existing and theoretically federating doesn’t need any resources if there’s nobody following, assuming threads isn’t doing that different from everyone else.
For each post a user makes on your instance, it sends that post to each instance where someone follows the poster. There’s no automatic sending to every known instance of every post on your instance.
Yes, absolutely. As an instance owner of four services (lemmy, mastodon, matrix and peertube), the users will absolutely follow a lot more folks (and maybe unfollow them but then the damage is done, metaphorically).
The larger problem will be the habit of having infinitely more people and then meta defederating/limiting the non-meta instances which is what makes them the most money.
Tapping in that hatred for Zuck, that’ll do to stay away from that platform.
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With no “global delete” option, couldn’t users just poison the well with GDPR requests (Article 17: Right To Be Forgotten)?
Instance owners “allegedly” run on charity and donation, so 4% of$0 is still $0.
