I found an old notebook PC lying around and I’m wondering if it could be enough to run a few services like the arr suite, qbittorrent and pi-hole.
Here’s a few specs: Cpu : Intel Celeron 1011 1.6ghz Ram : 1Gig Ethernet port
If you think it’s not a total waste of time, what distro would you install?
I tried with a Celeron 1 GHz. It was slower than a rpi and it sucked 65 watts at idle 🙈
But at least can give some experience, I prefer playing the sysadmin with real hardware than a VM
That’s good to know ha ha! At least I can have some fun before investing further…
It is 100% a great idea to see how you feel about the concept of self-hosting with an old machine. If it’s really old (and I’m talking like anything from before about 2008-2010), perhaps consider snagging an old “tiny”/1L-class box from eBay for cheap. Dell, HP, and Lenovo units can be found for WAY under $100 all the time, and slightly more modern units can still be had at a reasonable price, depending on the model. They’re great platforms to play around with. Just shove a cheap SSD in there and play with it.
Source: an old m920q with an i5-8500T is running pfSense for my home network
Thanks. I might simply go for the raspberry pi solution as well.
It’s doable but you should treat it more as a learning opportunity than a production system. Honestly, that’s old enough that a RPi might be able to run circle around it.
The Celeron 1011 is a 32bit processor, so Debian or Gentoo may be the only distributions that still support it and you will probably have to compile from source anything you want to run. A gig of ram was good for its time.
The Linux Unplugged crew from Jupiter Broadcasting are currently doing a 32bit challenge to see if such systems are still usable for day to day usage. It’s going to be interesting.
Found the spec sheet on that processor for anyone who’s interested.
I’ve got Pi-hole and Syncthing running on an old netbook with an Atom CPU and 2 GB RAM. It’s doing fine. Syncthing killed the little dual-core CPU while it was syncing all of the stuff I wanted, but now it idles along quietly on Debian. I doubt you’re going to get much out of the machine, but it’s perfectly fine for small, simple stuff like Pi-hole.
Distro-wise, I’d say Debian or similar if you want to set-and-forget (update once a week or month) or Arch/openSUSE Tumbleweed if you want it up-to-date (potentially more work needed).
Considering the hardware I’d also recommend whichever distro you go with without a GUI to keep the resource usage as low as possible.
Go for a vintage correct OS for a challenge, try Haiku!
Hey, Haiku is a “modern” OS too :)
DietPi (it runs on PCs)
What advantages would this give over plain Debian or similar? I’m a total noob, so I’d love something that might help me get a little more out of my little netbook ‘server’.
Check out their website; it’ll do a better job of explaining than I can/will.
Thanks, I’ll check it out.
dietPi is in fact Debian, with extra scripts to install/remove software. They also thinned it way down, so you get a working system with the bare essentials.
Would it be worth switching if I’m already set up on Debian?
If you’re all set up on Debian, I don’t see the advantage of switching to another flavor of Debian, unless you have a low powered machine (low specs, not much RAM).
Then I’ll conseder it when I’m feeling productive. I am using an old netbook. Thanks for the answers.
Puppy Linux!
Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Gentoo, Peppermint…
Some others like damn small linux or nano Linux or Linux lite.
Crunch bang plus plus retro af
Thanks!
They really didn’t fast for old computers, most of them didn’t support x32 already, they eating many resources of ram and processor… In real world they didn’t light as declared.
I would look into buying a mini PC and throwing a hypervisor on it.
I don’t know about the whole 'arr suite but one BT client and PiHole should not be a problem. Provided you don’t seed hundreds of torrents, but even that may work out ok-ish depending on the BT client – some of them like Transmission or rTorrent are more efficient than qBitTorrent or Deluge.
Edit: oh and distro, any distro provided you disable unnecessary services. And I’m assuming you plan to use it in CLI mode only.
It sounds too slow. Save yourself time and sanity.
Any distro. Energy consumption may be higher. Apart from that all good (I guess)
You’ll probably save money in the long run using a pi.
I did the math:
Your math is wrong. If the Celeron runs 65W at idle then it is consuming at minimum 1.56kWh a day, at a price of €0.20 per kWh you’re looking at a minimum operating cost of €113.88 a year.
You didn’t factor in that days have 24 hours, not one hour.
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Maybe. You limiting factor is going to be power and thermals. I started on a broken laptop and moved to a minipc when I first started.
Edit: I did manage to install Puppy Linux onto it, but I was severely limited by the CPU which is 32bits. I’m trying another old laptop next! Thanks everyone!
What kind of limitation did you run into? Lack of packages or speed?
Old distro and lack of packages