• Redfox8@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    I think that depends on how you define ‘civilisation’. My inclination is that most people would say civilisation has ended if life is drastically different to how they perceive their life/world they live in. Think ‘civilisation as we know it’ rather than a dictionary definition.

    However, I disagree that it’s not an existentisl threat, if only on the basis of possible crop failiures on a massive scale (reduced crop yields are a global issue already). Don’t underestimate the impact of food shortages on everything else, we in the west have become accustomed to easy access to food.

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      11 months ago

      An asteroid impact or super volcano eruption has the potential to kill every single human on earth and end the human race. That’s what I mean by existential threat. I feel like many people think of climate change as something that’s on the same scale but it really isn’t. Saying stuff like “climate change will ruin us all” just isn’t true. There are degrees of bad and while climate change definitely is up there in the bad end of the spectrum there’s still events that are orders of magnitude worse.

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        11 months ago

        If we trigger tipping point after tipping point, we can turn earth into venus. You’re just wrong.

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          11 months ago

          What am I wrong about? What happened to Venus was caused by the eruption of super volcanoes. That’s the exact example I used above of an actual existential threat.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t know the details, but I’m pretty sure greenhouse effect has something to do with it.

            But it doesn’t matter, it’s beside the point. This person obviously means global warming could make the planet much hotter than we want, inhabitably hot like Venus. Not that we are literally Venus

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            11 months ago

            Doomerism is a vibe. You’re gonna have a hard time talking people down around these parts.