• entropicshart@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Here is something really bad going on with this person who has their literal freedom threatened, but let me twist this into why this is Elons fault.

    IDGAF about Elon or anything he touches, but the mental gymnastics in this are worthy of a Olympic gold medal

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      10 months ago

      The argument is that by making Twitter a far right cesspool, Musk had made it more difficult for non-western dissidents to reach an international audience. Certainly arguable but not entirely wrong.

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        10 months ago

        Shame, maybe you should because while the argument is not causally linked, it’s certainly something to suggest in the context of this. Especially in light of, as said in the video, the Musk-Drones are not exactly people who will provide a platform to someone like Wu. And losing Twitter as a platform is huge to her, and of course in turn this removes the audience that might have been protecting her.

        Is it a bit of a stretch? Sure.
        Is it entirely unpossible? Not at all, it actually sounds fairly reasonable even if it might just as well not be.

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      10 months ago

      Elon sucks, but its not his fault that China disappears dissidents

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, the first 2/3rds of the article covering Naomi Wu was worth a read, but that last 1/3rd… I get her argument, but she should have left that out to focus just on Naomi.

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        10 months ago

        This is something that Naomi had even talked about previously, how Western media only cared about the experience of people living in China when it could suit their narrative, and didn’t want anything to do with them when it didn’t.

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    10 months ago

    I read a Twitter post of hers a few years ago where she was extremely apologetic towards China, saying that Americans listened to a lot of propaganda and so on. Now I’m starting to wonder if it was really her who made that twitter post.

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      10 months ago

      I wouldn’t doubt it. How many Americans apologize for our system despite the long history of continuing genocide. Overthrowing governments, occupying countries, or just funding international terrorism. How about British colonizers?

      I’d still say the US is better, but only just. Naomi has seen a lot of improvement with society there in her life. I don’t have the video where she went into detail handy. Or know if it is even still up. But it’s worth a watch if you haven’t seen it. Are things great there? No. But they are much better for many of them despite their oppressive government.

      Unfortunately Naomi’s S.O. is uyghur. And despite all the progress minorities like her have seen in China, uyghurs haven’t. And even her mild criticism of the government over it. Brought their ire.

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      10 months ago

      Nah that sounds like her

      I’ve been aware of her for a long time, even before she started looking like a freak and she was always a pro-China shitheap who’d shit on the west.

      Good riddance frankly. Let her enjoy her better country.

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          10 months ago

          You support authoritarians, I don’t support you. It’s that simple. She made her choice years ago, now she can live with the consequences.

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            10 months ago

            I never said I support China, but I also don’t blame a lesbian dating a minority woman from a group who is actively being ethnically cleansed by the Chinese government for doing what she has to do to survive. She’s been blackbagged multiple times over the years and the government watches what she says very closely. And I also don’t blame her for opposing Westerners who apparently often just tried to use her as a tool to support whatever narrative they were trying to spin at the time and then criticize her for bringing up issues she faced that didn’t support their narrative.

            That would be like me saying that you made your choice when you decided to live in a country founded by a British prison colony, and now you can live with the consequences. Which is where I was sarcastically going originally, but I think the comparison would’ve been lost on you.

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              Not you you, you as in her (or anyone else who would). And I’ve known of her from when her works first popped up on HackADay, before China was clamping down on Uyghurs, before she went into the extreme body modding, etc. I’ve disliked her longer than the majority of you known she even existed.

              But hey make it racist, keep talking about westerners and what not. Show your real colours.

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    The theory is that you can get away with a bit more in China if you have a big western audience. She had a fairly big one and that was protecting her, but the audience is fickle (made more fickle by Musk ruining Twitter) and once her audience declined, she lost that protection.

    I guess the real lesson is that if you’re Chinese and develop a Western audience, us that to escape China. Don’t stay behind in China because your big audience is painting a target on your back, and eventually the Chinese authorities are going to ruin your life.

    As an aside, did anybody else find her vibe really offputting? I liked her content, but her enormous fake boobs and skimpy outfits were a distraction from otherwise interesting content. If I found a video of hers interesting, it made me not want to share that with anybody because they’d think I was watching it because of her body. I’m all for women’s empowerment, if someone wants to look and feel sexy that’s great. But, with her stuff, it was so extreme that it felt like exploitation. Maybe she was exploiting herself, but it still felt icky.

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      She has a video explaining how she became the way she is that address that. Iirc she was raised as a boy by her parents which was one of the major contributing factors.

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        10 months ago

        That might explain the ridiculous boobs, but not why she still chooses to wear incredibly skimpy outfits in her videos.

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    10 months ago
    1. I agree Naomi Wu is a force for good
    2. Elon Musk sucks
    3. This article does not actually establish any meaningful blame for Elon Musk in Naomi Wu’s plight.

    Sorry, yes Elon Musk is the reason Twitter is shitting itself to death, but that doesn’t make Elon the main person responsible for Naomi’s problems. It’s probably not even top 10. It’s weird to call him out in this.

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      It’s Lemmy, the sentence “and why I blame Elon Musk” is basically the unspoken rule of everything.

      Now don’t get me wrong, he’s a POS businessman just trying to manipulate the market into a profit for himself, but if there’s no reasonable way to blame him for something and it seems like you’re just going “thanks Obama!” It’s getting old.

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    10 months ago

    Fuck, loved watching her content and back when Kaidi first showed up I was hoping they could just get the fuck out.

    Turns out, she can’t leave anyways. Damn :'(

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    10 months ago

    I read the whole thing and then saw that she’s continuing to prop up the same platform and same platform model she blames. Make it make sense.

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    Iirc MakerMuse mentioned her disappearance in a video quite a while ago. I don’t understand the article well, has she resurfaced silenced or is she still missing?

    Wasn’t a great fan of Naomi’s outfits but she made great videos. With the Amber B1 robot arm she was the only one calling out the kickstarter company was a bit sketchy and not just blind advertising it.