We Asked A.I. to Create the Joker. It Generated a Copyrighted Image.::Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

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    8 months ago

    We asked A.I. to create a copyrighted image from the Joker movie. It generated a copyrighted image as expected.

    Ftfy

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      8 months ago

      When they asked for an Italian video game character it returned something with unmistakable resemblance to Mario with other Nintendo property like Luigi, Toad etc. … so you don’t even have to ask for a “screencapture” directly for it to use things that are clearly based on copyrighted characters.

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        8 months ago

        you’re still asking for a character from a video game, which implies copyrighted material. write the same thing in google and take a look at the images. you get what you ask for.

        you can’t, obviously, use any image of Mario for anything outside fair use, no matter if AI generated or you got it from the internet.

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          But the AI didn’t credit the clear inspiration. That’s the problem, that is what makes it theft: you need permission to profit off of the works of others.

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            8 months ago

            you need permission to profit off of the works of others.

            but that’s exactly what I said. you can’t grab an image of Mario from google and profit from it as you can’t draw a fan art of Mario and profit from it as well as you can’t generate an image of Mario and profit from it.

            It doesn’t matter if you’re generating it with software or painting it on canvas, if it contains intellectual property of others, you can’t (legally) use it for profit.

            however, generating it and posting it as a meme on the internet falls under fair use, just like using original art and making a meme.

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              8 months ago

              The users are allowed to ask for those things

              The AI company should not be allowed to give it in return for monetary gain.

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      8 months ago

      What it proves is that they are feeding entire movies into the training data. It is excellent evidence for when WB and Disney decides to sue the shit out of them.

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          8 months ago

          Yes. Thats what these things are, extremely large catalogues of data. As much data as possible is their goal.

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            True but it didn’t pick some random frame somewhere in the movie it chose a extremely memorable shot that is posted all over the place. I won’t deny that they are probably feeding it movies but this is not a sign of that.

            This image is literally the top result on Google images for me.

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              Why would it pick some random frame in the middle of its data set instead of a frame it has the most to reference. It can still use all those other frames to then pick the frame if has the most references to.

              But im starting to think maybe i misunderstood the comment i replied to.

              Sorry, im way out of context with my reply, totally my fault for reflexively replying.

              Uhhh would you accept i didnt have my coffee yet and hadnt got out of bed yet as an explanation?

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        8 months ago

        I have that exact same .jpeg stored on my computer and I don’t even know where it came from. I don’t even watch superhero films

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            8 months ago

            They’re not selling it though, they’re selling a machine with which you could commit copyright infringement. Like my PC, my HDD, my VCR…

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              No, they are selling you time in a digital room with a machine, and all of the things it spits out at you.

              You dont own the program generating these images. You are buying these images and the time to tinker with the AI interface.

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                I’m not buying anything, most AI is free as in free beer and open source e.g. Stable Diffusion, Mistral…

                Unlike hardware it’s actually accessible to everyone with sufficient know-how.

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                  8 months ago

                  Youre pretty young, huh. When something on the internet from a big company is free, youre the product.

                  Youre bug and stress testing their hardware, and giving them free advertising. While using the cheapest, lowest quality version that exists, and only for as long as they need the free QA.

                  The real AI, and the actual quality outputs, cost money. And once they are confident in their server stability, the scraps youre picking over will get a price tag too.

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                    8 months ago

                    Literally what are you on about? I run my models locally, the only hardware i am stress testing is my own.

                    I don’t support commercialization of anything, least of all AI, and the highest quality outputs come from customized refined models in the open source and AI art communities, not anything made by a corpo.

                    I think you must be literally 12 yourself if you think you can comment on this tech without even understanding models and weights are something you download if you want anything beyond fancy often wrong Google search, they’re not run in the “cloud” like your fancy iPad web apps and they are open source.