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  • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    9 months ago

    Skip ad. Bitcoin is pumped through ridiculous leverage and printing of “stable” coins like tether. The scam hasn’t unraveled yet, but that doesn’t mean it won’t.

    • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
      26·
      9 months ago

      Do you know that Tether and Bitcoin are different things? Because it seems like you don’t.

      • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        9 months ago

        Do you know that tether is printed and used to buy bitcoin? Because it seems like you don’t.

        • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
          34·
          9 months ago

          Stablecoins are a house of cards built around stably relating to another house of cards which is the entire inflationary fiat system. Every single asset and currency is speculated on via the open market. Bitcoin is no exception. If it is overvalued or undervalued, that creates market opportunities for people to exploit the difference. The market has decided it’s worth a certain amount today, it will be another amount tomorrow. Not unique to Bitcoin. Every year people have said Bitcoin was “overvalued” and powered purely by hype, on average, the market has decided they were wrong the following year.

          Any honestly-run stablecoin inherently has to collateralize their coin with something. They can buy BTC (and do), they can buy USD (and do), they can buy wheat futures (but I’m not sure they do). Ultimately, a diverse portfolio would probably be wisest. Yet you don’t see anybody complaining that “USD is being pumped by Tether/USDC”. Why? Because it’s not a problem.

            • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
              0·
              9 months ago

              The previous poster is alleging BTC is being “pumped” by tether because tether is collateralizing their coin by buying BTC. I’m pointing out that they also buy USD yet nobody is complaining that USD is being pumped.

              If you buy a stablecoin, the hope is that the stablecoin is tied to an actual dollar (or whatever it is supposed to represent). This means if you buy $1 in tether, tether should buy $1 USD on the open market, put it in a vault, and wait until somebody else comes back to sell that dollar back to Tether. But you can buy other stuff too, other assets, which when you start managing large amounts of money is important for risk management. Plus they can make some returns that way. Some stablecoins pass the returns on to people who hold the stablecoin. Generally, these stablecoins are collapses waiting to happen for these and many other reasons.

              • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                Do you genuinely believe the impact of Tether buying Bitcoin on Bitcoins price is comparable to the impact of Tether buying USD to USD “price”/value? Like fr?

                • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  I’m not saying it doesn’t impact the price, I’m saying it doesn’t matter. Bitcoin’s current price looks like a steal to me if it’s going to be the underlying currency for the global economy.

                  All currency is speculated on. The market finds the right price. Then it corrects. The price goes up and down. That’s how markets work. The USD is guaranteed to lose value and buying power over time due to an inflationary supply. That’s not even throwing in the US’s declining role as a global currency hegemon and the reduced demand it causes.

                  Bitcoin? It could go up or down relative to other currencies or goods, but my portion of the supply relative to the whole will always be the same. That’s why I buy bitcoin.

                  • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
                    11·
                    9 months ago

                    I do agree BTC might be a steal rn. But saying Tether didn’t have anything to do with pumping crypto is laughable at best.
                    Also, I believe Cardano will be the currency for the global economy (but more likely multiple coins, including BTC). But that’s just my opinion.

                    but my portion of the supply relative to the whole will always be the same. That’s why I buy bitcoin.

                    This may be true for Cardano, but not for Bitcoin. As more BTC gets mined, your percentage of the total supply goes down, because you are not getting those coins but the miners are. So you have to keep buying it to keep your percentage of the total fixed. Since most BTC is already mined that’s not really a problem IMO anyways. But yeah.

                    UPDATE:

                    As more BTC gets mined, your percentage of the total supply goes down

                    My mistake, I was thinking about the current supply. Brain fart. It’s the same with ADA. 1 ADA is the same percentage of the total supply 5 years ago or now.

      • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        People defending Binance and Tether are either:

        • Clueless and haven’t done any research
        • Brainwashed
        • Part of the Binance/Tether cartel
        • Paid to do it
        • Lying to themselves
        • Aware of the truth, but want their bags to continue to be propped up by fraudsters

        Which one are you?

        • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
          21·
          9 months ago

          IDGAF about Tether, IMO it will collapse one day, and the world will be better for it. It’s a currency whose basis is “trust me bro”.

          • TypicalHog@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            I just wish it collapsed sooner. At this point the effect on the whole crypto sector, be it BTC, ETH or ADA will be unimaginable for most people.