• phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    I don’t use Linux too much, but this matches my experience… I have a raspberry pi 3, running a home automation server.

    One day I go to upgrade a plugin for it. It tells me I need to upgrade the home automation server first, so I go do that. It fails because my Node.js install needs to be upgraded too, so I do that. Then, I try to upgrade the home automation server again, but that now fails with a strange error. Stack trace says something about a missing C++ lib in my Node.js install, so I look it up. I try to install the missing library, but it gives more errors. I do more searching and find loads of other people with this issue, my raspbian version can’t support this C++ library version without first being upgraded. Damn, well, it’s midnight and I have work in the morning, I don’t have time for that. I try to get my home automation server up so I can go to bed, but it fails due to problems with the Node.js install. Can’t go to bed without this server running or my smart home accessories don’t work. I try to downgrade to the previous Node.js version. This fails with another error. Couldn’t upgrade, now I can’t downgrade, I’m stuck. I read a thread on GitHub… other people are reinstalling the OS from scratch and starting over. Damn… I start trying to backup my config files so I can do this too. One more check of another post on GitHub and I find some guy shares a command to downgrade Node.js without a fresh OS install. Perfect! I run this, restart my home automation server, and go to bed. Maybe I’ll try to figure out this problem another day.

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      See, this is why BTRFS is a good idea.

      I borked one of my installs today by accident. I’m not even sure what happened… I upgraded the kernel, then weird things started happening, then X just froze, I restarted, runit would’t even go to phase 3 of the boot process, X couldn’t load, just gave a bunch of errors. Oh well, BTRFS to the rescue 😊. This is where things get interesting 😂.

      I was on the phone with my wife while I was trying to bring back a snapshot of the volume… have no idea what I did, but I managed to wipe the root subvolume 😂. Not like just empty, but completely gone 🤣. OK 😬. Let’s see if the snapshots are still there. Yep, still there. OK, recreated the subvolume and tried to load a snapshot of it, this time, wuthout talking on my phone 😂. Worked like a charm 😊. Restart, sure enough, it loads grub and the OS, everything’s back to normal 😊.

      Start using filesystems that can make snapshots, like BTRFS or ZFS. Sure, they have a bit of a learning curve, but trust me, it’s worth it.

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    Must be doing something wrong if this is the everyday experience (especially for production). And there’s the ones wanting to experiment, which is a different thing. I guess that’s why this is a meme.

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    Honestly my Windows 10 experience wasn’t much different.

    Atleast I can actually fix most of the issues that pop up on Linux

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      I was struggling to get an OS installed on my cousin’s dell at one point. This machine came with that Intel Optane…shit with a spinning rust hard drive, I was replacing it with a straight-up NVMe SSD. Windows would get well into the install process, and then bomb out with an error that was something like 0x123a039f34798cd76eb1 UNDEFINED ERROR. This of course was in the Windows installer, which isn’t a functioning desktop environment, so I had to type that manually into my laptop to google it, and got very few results.

      I tried Linux Mint, and it apparently had the same problem. It said something like “BIOS Storage config error. Unable to mount file system. It may be that such and such setting is incorrect in the BIOS. See this page for further details.” The last sentence was a hyperlink to a wiki that discussed the problem, which opened in Firefox because this installer runs in a live environment, AND IT HAD A QR CODE LINK IN THE ERROR MESSAGE to the same page so you could easily copy the link to an external device. Y’all that was a white glove concierge deep tissue massage of an error message.

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            Got it. My wife is about ready to jump ship after seeing me running linux on my daily for half a year with heavy tasks.

            She‘s jealous of the customization and versatility of linux.

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              Mine stopped asking me whether I’m hacking or not after I showed her a few images from her phone on my laptop. She doesn’t know I copied those when she gave me her phone once.

              I think she’s kinda afraid of me now…

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    Been running Fedora since June of last year, and it’s the most “boring” distro I’ve ever used. It’s been rock solid and I haven’t experienced a single issue. None! I have an all-AMD build. The funny thing is that I recently installed Ubuntu 23.10 on a different PC, and I managed to break it after a couple of hours 😂

    Been using Linux on and off since 2008 (ish).

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      I pulled out of the Redhat world around 2002 and only recently got back into it via Nobara. I have to agree, Fedora is boringly stable and still pretty cutting edge.

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      Same here. I switched to Fedora last year and it’s been so easy…too easy 🤔

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    I literally didn’t even boot Windows for a month and then when I did, I got BSOD on boot, and it gave me some bullshit about not being able to find a device. How’s that for maintenance? I can’t say I miss it.

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    This is why I use Arch. I enjoy the tinkering. One day Arch won’t be enough and I will have to install Gentoo. You will probably never hear from me ever again after that. Mostly because I will be too busy compiling firefox again after a minor update.

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    It’s funny, but as an adult now… I’m more concerned my ADHD is like this. It’s so annoying. I don’t even mean to do it. I set out to clean my desktop computer files and the next thing I know I’m painting the garage. Oh and ESPECIALLY if something is important. My mind creates these distractions or ‘focuses’ which allow me to fully set my mind on something, as long as it’s to avoid doing something else… 🤦‍♂️

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      Yeah last week I found myself thinking "blazeknave what the fuck are you doing?? You’re prepping online research, for your meeting in five minutes. How did you end up sorting the linen closet? Fuck you man! "

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    I just turn on the Ubuntu computer, play games, Clic the occasional button to install updates and then keep doing my stuff. No maintenance stuff needed unless I mess something up on purpose with tinkering.

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    “daily” maintenance for linux??? i think we call that “eier schaukeln” in germany.

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    This is after the third reboot, and automatic updates were off and I never accepted an update. All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn’t show up in adb on Linux.

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      All I wanted to do was sideload obtanium into the Facebook spy mask and I thought it would be easier than figuring out why it wouldn’t show up in adb on Linux.

      Those are certainly words.

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        I didn’t know about this project and will look into it for future use when family inevitably complains about their phones every time they get a new one without asking me what I think of it first. It’s the quest 3 headset I was talking about. It does come with some apps I haven’t tried that give the impression of bloat but I would be surprised if the device is within the scope of the project.

        I did manage to install obtanium and in turn a bunch of other stuff though. Just needed to wait for windows to reboot an additional time, and now it seems to take an additional keypress to get rid of the lock screen before the password box. I’ll probably just try to find the time to figure out what was wrong on the Linux side of things for the future.

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        I use arch and as long as you don’t have a buttfuck of unnecessary daemons and aur packages (which can be said for any distro imo), it’s as simple as sudo pacman -Syu

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          Until you’re one of the unlucky ones whose PC gets bricked by an update. Happened to me twice. I agree, it’s wayyyy more chill than people give it credit for, but let’s not pretend using it as a daily driver doesn’t come with its risks ^^

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    NixOS was like this for me in the first 1 or 2 weeks, after that it’s been a breeze and very easy to keep my desktop and laptop configurations synced.