• Hyperreality@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    You can use windows 11 without TPM. It’s just not made easy for casual users.

    I know this is linuxmemes and that this will be an unpopular opinion, but a lot of the complaints about windows I see linux users make, are based on a lack of knowledge. Sure, MS doesn’t make it particularly easy, but linux isn’t always particularly easy to install or get working well for casual users either. Whether it’s linux or windows, a quick google goes a long way to solving most issues.

    I’m behind the idea of GNU, but it’s weird how so many linux memes could easily be turned into equally ill informed pro-MS memes. Obviously, MS isn’t a nice company and I don’t think anyone’s a genuine MS fanboy, but still.

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      Yep I know You can run Window 11 without TPM I even installed it once but here we are talking about recommended requirement(You just need a decent CPU on Linux)

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      There are, in effect, hacks to get around the requirement. That is not the same thing as it not being required. You manage to get Windows 11 installed on a system without TPM, you’re not in a supported configuration and could at any time find yourself locked out of updates or even your system, and it’ll likely at least be a cat and mouse game.

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        9 months ago

        There are also ways to get around nvidia cards without good linux drivers or laptops with unsupported wifi cards.

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        The same thing can be said about plenty of configurations and linux. Plenty of laptops or the wrong nvidia card, and you’re likely to have to find a workaround too.

        Hell, bypassing the TPM requirement is almost certainly easier than creating your own driver for an nvidia card or problemsolving wifi issues because your laptop’s network card manufacturer doesn’t give a fuck about linux users.

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          Yeah but not giving a fuck unsupported is way better than we’ll purposefully fuck you over unsupported.

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      9 months ago

      everyone knows, it’s just disregarded most of the time because it’s not a supported use case

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        It’ll be a sad day when the other foot drops. I like Linux but I understand it’s not for everyone.

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          I find it annoying that the community pretends otherwise.

          Someone goes on a forum with their laptop with an nvidia card and a wifi card no one’s ever heard of, and more likely than not he’ll be told it’ll be easy to get linux running on it.

          Hell, I was wrong. It’s not just that a lot of linux users don’t know much about windows, they also don’t seem to know about the issues people can face with linux on some less or non-compatible hardware.

          You can be a linux fan and admit that companies like Nvidia, Realtek or HP don’t give much of a shit about linux, but some pretend otherwise.

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            Idk, I had issues on Wayland with Nvidia and switching back to xorg works fine. About the only thing wrong was a lot of screen tearing in games after a driver update.

            The live environment is for testing your hardware and trying things out. You’d be surprised how many things do work and you don’t need to nuke your system to find out. If it doesn’t work you just reboot and everything is back to normal.

            Also I don’t even bother with figuring out printers on Linux. I’m almost certain they all universally work, some sort of Unix black magic if you ask me.

            If your a Windows fan that fine but don’t pretend we don’t try to make it easy.