I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

  • ExLisper@linux.community
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    8 months ago

    AOSP. Sad but true.

    When first pinephone came out I really believed it’s heading somewhere. It thought that it will be kind of like raspberry Pi (fun, cheap platform to play with) and that we’ll quickly see copycats and it will slowly grow the way Linux on desktop did. AFAIK nothing like this happened. You still can’t get a phone with decent Linux support which for me shows that we’re stuck with android. I think most people that would help Linux phone happen are simply satisfied with LineageOS so there’s no incentive to put as much effort into it as it requires.

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      8 months ago

      AOSP is dying as Google is killing off all the apps in favor of proprietary Google ones.

      Lineage os is slowly becoming its own thing as they are maintaining basically all of the system apps at this point.

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        8 months ago

        I like the security measures that Google takes for Android.

        I don’t like how Google fucks everyone over in everything else

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          8 months ago

          Yeah, I love having to use a custom ROM to get security updates and subsequently root my phone to be able to pass safetynet so I can use banking apps on my phone. Else I have to do as designed: Buy a new phone every 2-3 years :))))))

          Not Google’s fault alone, but the way Android and ARM both have proprietary components combine into a delightful piece of hot crap that stifles users freedom and innovation.

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      8 months ago

      An Android phone isn’t what’s referred to when people say “Linux phone”. What they’re referring to is a phone running GNU/Linux, typically running one of the GNU/Linux phone shells/desktop environments.

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        8 months ago

        Not necessarily, F-droid combined with Lineage os or other free software ROM gives you the same freedoms are the Linux desktop does.

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          You can’t even compile any of those FOSS apps without running propietary build of Android SDK. No one managed to build current versions of Android SDK from the source code yet.

          Android is like one big blob and changing anything in it require giant effort. Meanwhile making new feature for a Linux phone with common Linux tech stack is super easy and any mid-tier developer can change something in Phosh for example.

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      8 months ago

      The benefits are there, some of ideas out of my head:

      Better networking for administrator, access to /etc/hosts file, not being tied to a single VPN slot.

      Using old mobile phone as a simple server, having access to firewall tools and normal remote control.

      Installing simplier graphical interface for eldery people.

      Lifetime updates for many system components that are not device specific.

      Simple backups and cloning with standard tools like rsync or borgbackup instead of Google Drive. Also backing up whole system.

      Everyone can add a feature, you can make a difference, no need to mess with Google’s Android developing pipeline.

      Making native apps for mobile and desktop at the same time, no need for bloated web-like abstraction layers.

      Apps made in Python, C, Rust… No need to fit into Android SDK. And no forcing Android SDK and Android Studio!

      Customizations of the interface look via CSS files (Phosh have it to some sort).

      Someone give more ideas?