I’ll just come out and say it: 50W. I know, I know an order of magnitude above what’s actually needed to host websites, media center and image gallery.
But it is a computer I had on-hand and which would be turned on a quarter of the day anyway. And these 50W also warm my home, although this is less efficient than the heat pump, of course.
What’s your usage? What do you host?
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AMD Ryzen 5600G
B550 Aorus Master
2x16 Ripjaw V 3200mhz
1x 14 TB Toshiba N300 for media
1x 6TB Seagate Ironwolf for backup important data
1x 500GB Samsung evo 970 as systemdrive
1x 500GB Crucial P1 as cache and download
1x 2TB Crucial P3 for docker, apps, databases, incus
Bequiet 400W
Nvidia GTX 1660 Super
Idle power 53w, totally worth it ☺️ The extra graphic card is for Immich and Ollama / overall transcoding.
I currently have probably 10% of your performance at 2x the power draw. 😭
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Get new hardware or you will pay it with your energy bill
~600W. 2 machines: Dell 730 8 disks running multiple Minecraft servers. Supermicro 16 disks in raid 10 running multiple VM for various functions. All on a 6kva ups (overkill I know)
Luckily I have a large solar array.
370W average.
3 x Lenovo x3650 M5 (Proxmox Nodes)
- 1 x Xeon E5-2697A v4
- 128GB DDR4 ECC
- 2 x 960GB sATA SSD
- 3 x 900GB SAS3 10K RPM HDD
- 1 x nVidia Quadro M2000
TP Link TL-SG3428X switch
Raspberry Pi 3B+ (physical Pi-hole server)
Generic Mini PC Intel N3150 (OpenVPN client)
Dell Optiplex (OPNSense firewall)
- Intel i5 4590
- 8GB
Is that 370watt across all of them or per fat server? I ask because three m5 sound like a lot of power drain!.
And thanks for sharing!
~53 W
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Server:
- AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
- 4x16 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz
- 256 GB NVMe as boot-disk
- 2x256 GB Samsung SSDs for VMs
- 2x2 TB WD Red Plus HDDs
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Mini PC: Beelink S12 N95
- 16 GB DDR4
- 256 GB NVMe
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8 port unmanaged TP Link switch
I would like to expand my storage, however I don’t have any available SATA ports and I believe adding an HBA would increase the idle draw about 8 W. I might just upgrade the SSDs and split the storage between the HDDs and SSDs.
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My current setup uses ~180W, which is a lot, but WAY better than my previous one, which was ~600W. Power is cheap where I live, so I’m not too worried about it.
180W homelab:
- N6005 fanless mini PC running pfsense
- mikrotik CRS310-8G+2S+IN switch
- TP-Link AP225 access point
- Server running proxmox w/ AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, 128GB ECC RAM, LSI-9208i w/2x10TB drives, and dual SFP+ NIC
600W homelab:
- Aruba 24-port PoE gigabit switch w/ 4xSFP+ ports
- Dell R720xd fully kitted out w/ 12x 6TB drives, 2x 512GB SSD, 2x 32GB SD cards, 100-something GB RAM, 2x whatever the best CPU was for that unit
- Dell R710 w/ 6x 6TB drives, 1x 256GB SSD, 100-something GB RAM, 2x whatever the best CPU was for that unit.
- TP-Link AP225 access point
6w or so in idle, 50w under load with HDDs and RPi combined
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Ok, so most of you also use normal PC processors for your setups. So my power usage is not that high in comparison.
But still, a RaspberryPI would use much less and would still be performant enough.
5W vs 50W is an annual difference of 400 kWh. Or 150 kG CO2e, if that’s your metric. Either way, it’s not a huge cost for most people capable of running a 24/7 home lab.
If you start thinking about the costs - either cash or ghg - of creating an RPi or other dedicated low power server; the energy to run HDDs, at 5-10W each, or other accessories, well, the picture gets pretty complicated. Power is one aspect, and it’s really easy to measure objectively, but that also makes it easy to fetishize.
At $0.13/kwh 100 watts 24/7/365 will cost you $113.88 a year, or roughly $10 a month. Little things add up.
0.12kWh / h normally (120W). I’m also running 6 HDDs in raid10 so the spin down time is not optimal.
That’s energy, not power. If that’s the energy consumption per hour, then that’s 120W, which is high but not outrageous with a full size computer with 6 disks.
Correct. I assumed a normalized kWh rating would be better than any instantaneous measurement I had on hand.
120w continuous. Working on bringing it down, because that’s $1/day.
I’d rather spend that money on new hardware every year.
I use an Intel SBC with 10W TDP CPU in it. With a HDD and after PSU inefficiency, it draws about 10-20W depending on the load.
That’s impressive.
What do you use the system for? And services like PiHole or media server?
That’s impressive.
Yeah, you really don’t need a lot of CPU power for selfhosting.
It’s a J4105, forgot to mention that.
What do you use the system for? And services like PiHole or media server?
Oh, sorry, forgot to add that bit.
It’s mainly a NAS housing my git-annex repos that I access via SSH.
I also host a few HTTP services on it:
The services I use most here are Paperless and Piped.
Mealie will be added to that list as soon as the upstream PR lands which might be later this evening.
My Immich module is almost ready to go but the Immich app has a major bug preventing me from using it properly, so that’s on hold for now.
I do want to set up Jellyfin in the not too distant future. The machine should handle that just fine with its iGPU as Intel’s Quicksync is quite good and I probably won’t even need transcoding for most cases either.
I probably won’t be able to get around setting up Nextcloud for much longer. I haven’t looked into it much but I already know it’s a beast. What I primarily want from it is calendar and contact synchronisation but I’d also like to have the ability to share files or documents with mere mortals such as my SO or family.
The NixOS module hopefully abstracts away most of the complexity here but still…
Average load for me is about 750W. I run my desktop from one of the UPS units in my rack, so when that’s on it sits around 1.1kW.
The 750W load is across 4 rack servers(1 is the NAS with 12 disks) and 3 switches.
Mine is roughly 300 watts, much of which is from using an old computer as a NAS separate from my server server.
However, I put the whole thing in the basement next to my heat pump water heater which sucks the heat out of the air and puts it into my water, so I am ameliorating the expense by at least recapturing some of the *waste heat.
I really don’t know much it’s actually using but my NAS has a 550W power adapter …
So you know - that’s the max power output rating of the power supply. The NAS can be using anything “up to” that amount. Likely well below it.
Yeah, that’s how power adapters usually work. Thanks.
Sorry - I thought you didn’t know rather than were just offering completely useless information on purpose.
Well, I don’t know how much it’s using but I suspected it was somewhere between 0 and 550 ;)
Thank you for your valuable contribution.
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My main issue is I’m not shutting down my Pi-Hole, home assistant, NAS etc etc just to plug in something like this in, and then 24h or so later shut them all down again to retrieve it again. That said I basically have a collection of Pis (passively cooled and this silent) and a Synology disk station so the power use is pretty low.
