• mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So your GF is in favor of uncontrollable security issues and massive user scrambling to fix whatever your update fucked up on a daily basis?

    There’s a reason updates are batched, this is so fuckdamn shortsighted.

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      8 months ago

      There’s a reason updates are batched

      Yes. And I like to be the one doing that on my system.

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        8 months ago

        And I like updates that are actually tested on silicon before they’re rolled out. Rolling distros don’t do that. In that environment, YOU are the tester.

        And You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

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          You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

          I get this feeling from a lot of the posters here.

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            8 months ago

            So you feel comfortable doing that in a prod environment where you support 200+ linux boxes?

            I mean IDGAF what you do on your local PC but a business environment is no place for rolling updates with the exception of the most egregious zero days, and STILL there needs to be on-silicon testing.

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              In a business environment with 200+ linux boxes, it doesn’t matter which Linux distro you like best. Cause you’re going to have to run a system with enterprise-level support and wide adoption to cover your ass and find employees who are familiar with it.
              So that leaves Red Hat, Suse or Ubuntu as your only options.

            • When was this talk ever about a production environment??? Of course i wouldn’t run fucking arch on a server or similar. But the benefits bof arch on my PC outweigh the disadvantages

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          Actually, I use Arch cause I’m too lazy for other distros (I’ve tried all the main ones).
          The rolling nature and lack of distro-specific configs makes it much easier to automate the entire process.
          I run my update.sh script before I install new packages, or when a news entry pops up in my terminal about a change requiring manual intervention.
          So about once a month I type in update.sh, monitor the messages for 5 minutes and reboot.

          Literally the only issue I had so far was a software from 2021 that didn’t compile on the first try cause it expected an older version of Java.
          Other than that, it’s the least buggy distro I know.

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            8 months ago

            So, your personal computer then? Just one instance?

            Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?

            Because that is a very different experience.

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          Do yourself a favour and try opensuse tumbleweed. You won’t regret it.

          Also even on arch things doesn’t break unless the user installs a whole lot of stuff from the AUR. Since there are flatpaks around most people can get their day to day apps working without relying on community repos.