Love it. When they announced they were getting out of the handset market years ago I figured they were nuts. Now their equipment replaces china’s while they seemingly now manufacture licensed knockoffs of Nokia’s old handsets 🤯
Someone at Nokia is getting the Bond Villain of the Year award 🤔
Both Ericsson and Nokia have been huge players in the cellular networking market for many years, and still are. Nothing new. The only thing new is that they are getting even more contracts in the west since governments started boycotting Chinese companies (for good reason).
Sure… it was more that they chose to pull out around the start of the smart phone revolution. It seemed foolish at the time. I’m not actually implying they had a master-plan, just joking around a bit.
The story of Nokia the company is long and meandering. Its roots go back to late 1860’s in the town of Nokia in Southern Finland, near the city of Tampere, from where they’ve gone through all sorts of businesses, including rubber boots and industrial capacitors to name just two. You might even find an old Nokia TV knocking about. The mobile handsets phase was in some sense but a blip in the story, although a spectacular one. I’m sure they’ll keep going in one way or another for a fair while still.
Found the Nokia employee.
It does read a bit like something that should be on a bronze plaque somewhere.
And they also made personal computers back in the 1980s.
I knew they made other consumer electronics but I had no idea about the boots. That’s a delightfully wholesome origin story :-)
Are they really struggling? I’m sure the margins are much better on carrier grade telecom equipment. I don’t think Huawei is going to mourn the loss, but this is probably a huge deal for Nokia.
Somewhat amusingly, they still make boots.
Any opinion on the biggest risk?
Nokia is a proponent of OpenRAN and associated technologies, which are open, vendor-agnostic standards for phone networks backend kit as opposed to the very, very proprietary systems of yore; I’d say on the basis that it should be easier to tell if an OpenRAN box is leaky. Obviously that requires vigilance on the part of the operator so, yeah, fuck knows, but it’s harder for OpenRAN kit to lie.
As an aside, most countries have Lawful Intercept laws. Part of these laws require that the network kit has a standard physical port that gives full, unrestricted and - scarily - unlogged access to everything they handle for use by your government’s intelligence agencies.
Nice, used to be like this. Europe with European telecom. products, Nokia, Ericsson, etc.
They also recently won a deal with Rakuten Mobile to supply RAN equipment in Japan
In unrelated news, there’s suddenly a lot of cheap huawei equipment on ebay.
win!
fuck huawei. crooked propaganda tool for the fat dictator. fuck china. free tibet & the uigurs.
More protectionist measure as national security issues. Lip service to free and open market.
Huawei owns lots of 5g patents, will be paying one way or another.
Its not about not paying Huawei. Its about the way the CCP uses Huawei to spy.
Seen plenty of example of the 5 eye spying everything, yet to see an example of evidence Huawei spying.
There is a difference between a democratic, allied government spying and an authoritarian government spying.
There is a difference between a democratic, allied government raping, killing, bombing, murdering, genocide and an authoritarian government raping, killing, bombing, murdering and genocide?
It’s okay if we do it! Double standard!
The 5 eye has been caught with the penis in cookie jar via the NSA snowden leaks. Yet to show any evidence of Huawei spying for the Chinese government.
Enjoy that sweet 50 cents mate.
Stopping the Chinese 5G mindless robots…
