• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I absolutely love EUIV, but I wouldn’t get it here. The game is so much better with DLC, but there’s just so many that it doesn’t make sense to jump in right now. I guess it’s fine to give it a shot, but there’s a subscription on Steam that gets you all DLC for a monthly cost, which is going to be a much better deal than buying them individually here.

    Basically, if you like history and map painting games, EUIV has a lot to offer. I don’t recommend buying DLC at this point, but I do recommend getting the DLC with the subscription.

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    1 year ago

    Weird combination of games. My own feelings on Epic notwithstanding, I can highly recommend Orwell, especially for fans of Papers Please.

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    1 year ago

    Am I crazy or is europa universalis just a worse version of crusader kings? Love crusader kings but mever tried EU because it just seems like the same game with less features?

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      1 year ago

      It’s the same engine, but the focus is different: CK is about the ruling dynasty, EU is about the country itself. Time period is also different (EU4 goes from 1444 to 1821),

      A good example of that is that in EU4 your country can be the junior partner of a personal union, where it needs to fight against its rulers to get independence. You won’t see anything similar in CK3, because you are the ruling dynasty.

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        1 year ago

        I guess, idk that seems less fun to me lol. And in CK3 you can absolutely be a vassal of a larger kingdom and fight (or negotiate) for your independence.

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          And in CK3 you can absolutely be a vassal of a larger kingdom and fight (or negotiate) for your independence.

          Yes but you can’t be a junior partner of a personal union, since this means that you (the dynasty) would be fighting yourself. On the other hand in EU4 this works fine since you’re the Senate government/country/state itself, not the king or the dynasty. It was just an example on the different focus, mind you.

          On EU4 being less fun than CK3: personally I like EU4 better because I care far more about groups in Modern times interacting on a global level than individuals in Mediaeval times interacting on a regional level. And EU4 always involves some sort of “if I did this in real life I’d be a monster” decision, that actually makes me understand a lot of the shit that governments do, such as culturecide or backstabbing/Realpolitik.

          But there’s no “right” choice, it’s different strokes for different folks.