Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.
I use NixOS btw
Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.
Why the insult at vegans? Is it 2015 again?
Plus if anything Debian is more stringent regarding proprietary packages than Arch. Arch package manager will let you install open source drivers or proprietary drivers equally. If adhering to “extreme” moral values is the joke about being labelled vegan, then debian is the vegan one.
Author: “I use Fedora BTW”
Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.
Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.
If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.
Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.
“That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.
Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”
Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.
Doing an update is not a mistake.
Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.
totally anecdotal… but i’ve installed debian on a bunch of different machines and i’ve never had to “prepare additional installation media” for any weird hardware/firmware/drivers… i just installed the base system and connected ethernet if any non-free stuff is needed. has anyone ever come across an ethernet interface that didn’t work out of the box? maybe it didn’t work 100%, but at least good enough to download the proper firmware to fix?
Some wifi drivers. It’s because of the Debian philosophy of never using non-free (as in speech, not beer) software.
Thats why i said you just need a few minutes on ethernet… Although i can see the problem these days with a lot of laptops shipping without ethernet ports
These days Debian ship with non-free firmware in the default installer, so laptops without ethernet isn’t a problem.
You have a problem with veganism?
I think it’s a meme like arch users and vegans “how do you find them in a crowd? Don’t worry they’ll let you know”
In reality it’s mostly the opposide tho. Like in any Social Media post about plant based food you get bunch of meat eaters who have to announce to everyone how much they enjoy eating meat.
Fake. What about installing the GPU drivers?
If you know what your doing you can install arch faster than debian or fedora
As an arch user myself, I have to agree. This is eerily true. I love and hate arch for what it is. Just don’t leave your laptop in the closet without updating it every few months. It’s pretty certain that you have to reinstall arch if you wait too long.
This is how not to use Arch… Update at least once a month, or if not maybe at least twice a month. If you can’t handle the updates on Arch then consider switching to something like Debian…
It’s not like I cannot handle the updates. I really love arch for its flexibility, and with that come bleeding edge updates. Fedora is the next best thing but I’m definitely not as experienced there and it’s quite often lacking packages that arch does provide, either via its mirrors or the AUR
