• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    7 months ago

    ‘They/them’ has been used for singular people for centuries.

    The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf. Except for the old-style language of that poem, its use of singular they to refer to an unnamed person seems very modern. Here’s the Middle English version: ‘Hastely hiȝed eche . . . þei neyȝþed so neiȝh . . . þere william & his worþi lef were liand i-fere.’ In modern English, that’s: ‘Each man hurried . . . till they drew near . . . where William and his darling were lying together.’

    https://www.oed.com/discover/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/?tl=true

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      7 months ago

      So that means that’s the best way for it to work in the future? Having a distinction between singular and plural is useful, so why *not adjust our language and repurpose the not useful gendered pronouns?

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          I understand that, my point is that they’re not useful. Or at least it would be much more useful to have a singular and a plural pronoun, because that distinction is more relevant to modern speech.

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            Language is as useful as people make it and people have been happy to use the singular ‘they’ along with gendered pronouns for centuries. I don’t see the issue.

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              7 months ago

              You could use a similar argument to stop literally any innovation. Things don’t have to be an issue to be able to be improved.

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                7 months ago

                Language isn’t about innovation unless it is an artificial language. People don’t choose their words based on what is innovative.

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                  7 months ago

                  Are we not intelligent enough to make language whatever we want it to be? We actually do that all the time with political correctness and ungendering words like policeman.

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                    7 months ago

                    “We” are not under any obligation to make language whatever you want it to be.

                    Again, most people have no problem with the singular ‘they.’ You do. Why should they change to accommodate you?