Coffeezilla asks: “Is the LAM a Scam? Down the rabbit hole we go.”

  • Teknikal@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Pretty much everything AI is a scam, I mean it has its uses but isn’t exactly as claimed yet. Pretty much every non phone AI gadget I’ve seen so far definetly is a scam.

    • QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      If you think that “pretty much everything AI is a scam”, then you’re either setting your expectations way too high, or you’re only looking at startups trying to get the attention of investors.

      There are plenty of AI models out there today that are open source and can be used for a number of purposes: Generating images (stable diffusion), transcribing audio (whisper), audio generation, object detection, upscaling, downscaling, etc.

      Part of the problem might be with how you define AI… It’s way more broad of a term than what I think you’re trying to convey.

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        3 hours ago

        There are plenty of AI models out there today that are open source and can be used for a number of purposes

        Yes but those make up a small fraction of modern AI spam.

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          I don’t think you realize just how widely used some of those other models are… For instance, in gaming, DLSS is supported with every Nvidia GPU starting with the 20 series and up.

          DLSS uses multiple machine learning models for things like predicting object/pixel movement, generating new frames between what you would normally be able to achieve, and then upscaling that image. Which is also why you want to download the latest drivers since those models are better trained for the more recently released games.

          I wouldn’t call that a “small fraction” by any means.

          But, maybe your referring to the amount of focus that the news has on LLMs like ChatGPT?

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            46 minutes ago

            You’re talking about a single OEM. I’m referring to the breadth of “AI” devices and software that are currently being shoved down the throats of consumers and reaching into their pockets.

      • thehatfox@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I think it’s becoming fair to label a lot of commercial AI “scams” at this point, considering the huge gulf between the hype and the end results.

        Open source projects are different due to their lack of commercialisation.

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          1 month ago

          Sure, but don’t let that feed into the sentiment that AI = scams. It’s way too broad of a term that covers a ton of different applications (that already work) to be used in that way.

          And there are plenty of popular commercial AI products out there that work as well, so trying to say that “pretty much everything that’s commercial AI is a scam” is also inaccurate.

          We have:
          Suno’s music generation
          NVidia’s upscaling
          Midjourney’s Image Generation
          OpenAI’s ChatGPT
          Etc.

          So instead of trying to tear down everything and anything “AI”, we should probably just point out that startups using a lot of buzzwords (like “AI”) should be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism, until they can prove their product in a live environment.

      • foggy@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I find there’s 4 kinds of folks talking about AI.

        There’s folks who think it’s as amazing as all the tech firms tell us:

        1. And we’re all gonna die

        Or

        1. And life will be amazing

        Then there’s folks who think AI is hype whack bananas

        1. And think it’s a scam.

        And lastly,

        1. The folks who see that we’ve already changed life as we know it with AI. That there’s still massive potential, but folks in categories 1 and 2(, and 3,) are all kinda nuts.

        4 gang.

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 month ago

      I use chat gpt occasionally. It’s not a scam, it’s useful for what I need it to do. I’m just not fooled by the notion that these LLM know factual data or can do much more than generate text. If you accept that, LLMs are pretty darn useful.