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    5 months ago

    This ‘encrypt’ everything is such a waste of CPU and energy. Plus “oops, all your files are gone, tee hee.” HTTPS everywhere is fucking stupid. More complexity for zero benefit.

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        5 months ago

        Great for my banking website.

        Not at all important my my IOT sensor network.

        Not EVERYTHING needs to be HTTPS

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            You think your data is secure with HTTPS? There’s always an undisclosed vulnerability somewhere.

            Patches solve specific issues but they do nothing for overall security.

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              I don’t think there is any vulnerability in https. There are know limitations but https itself is fine. If you are talking about TLS vulnerabilities then we have much more to worry about. To compromise the content on a page someone would have to brute force TLS very fast which isn’t feasible with today’s computer. Today’s computer would take at least a few million years. But I have scene estimates that say long past the heat death of the universe.

              Even if https was full of holes it still would be better than http. Http has zero tamper protections or encryption. Companies like AT&T used to tamper with traffic to various purposes and it was feasible for them to do so.

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                  TLS could be the most flawed system on Earth and it would still be better than no TLS. Plain traffic is just that, plain. I can do whatever I want to your web browser as I can arbitrarily change the contents of websites. I can make a page be full of ads or do more malicious things such as replacing a page with a phishing site or running something like beef which allows me to have full control of a browser and to pull all information. I could also exploit any vulnerabilities in the browser to do privilege escalation although to be fair major security CVEs are rare.

                  This is literally a community about privacy. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want https. It works out of the box and it is implemented pretty much everywhere. If a site doesn’t use it that site isn’t really worth using as it take very little time to setup with Let’s encrypt.

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                Oh look, we’ve found a security ‘researcher’. Mad that your job only consists of making other people’s job harder?

                Try the DMV, that’s also a great place to work where you can inflict misery on others.

                Valuable zero days aren’t exposed. They’re sold. If someone wants your data they will get it. HTTPS means nothing except huge amounts of wasted CPU cycles and energy.

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          Don’t use HTTPS on your IOT sensor network then.

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        Because I have reasonable views about security drawbacks? That when I see a vulnerability, I also look at the whole situation and decide if that’s an acceptable risk, rather than screaming “Security issue!” at the top of my lungs and pretending that patching this one vulnerability somehow makes a difference when there’s always another found the next week??

        Security isn’t free, it costs us by making it harder to get work done. “Security researchers” only know how to cover their ass. I can do that without their shrieking cries of wolf.

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          "Might as well not bother patching this actively-exploited security vulnerability, there’ll just be another one in the future, " LMAO

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            On a laptop you bring everywhere I think it’s ok if you seriously think somebody might try to steal your data. On a desktop computer with the drive screwed onto the motherboard who’s going to steal it?

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              Computers are always getting faster so it always necessary to stay well ahead of the curve. The big shift recently was the that the default hash switched to defend against massive GPU farms. The modern hash requires a lot more memory but as AI pushes memory to increase we are now potentially seeing machines that can break the hash. To my knowledge that is theoretical and would require a significant amount of hardware but never underestimate the budget of the government.

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      Hey guys I found the dude who complained the github didn’t come in EXE form lmao