Hi all, the private school I work at has a tonne of old windows 7/8 era desktops in a student library. The place really needs upgrades but they never seem to prioritise replacing these machines. Ive installed Linux on some older laptops of mine and was wondering if you all think it would be worth throwing a light Linux distro on the machines and making them somewhat usable for a web browsing experience for students? They’re useless as is, running ancient windows OS’s. We’re talking pre-7th gen i5’s and in some cases pentium machines here.

Might be pointless but wonder what you guys think?

  • ladicius@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Friend of mine runs Linux on a 15 years old cheap consumer laptop, and it’s working smoothly for browsing.

    Just try. There’s no risk and no costs trying. Have fun.

  • Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    useless

    pre-7th gen i5’s

    I’ve got systems with second and third gen i5s that are handling Windows 10 just fine, seems like what the school really needs is some SSDs.

    Linux would definitely run better, so that’s worth it too.

    If this school is heavily embedded im the Google ecosystem, ChromeOS Flex is an option. FydeOS is similar but without the Google Account requirement.

  • solrize@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The biggest demands will come from the browser and its media players, not the OS. An i5 with 4gb RAM will be ok. Anything less will be marginal or worse. The modern web sucks. Did you know that mobile phones are starting to come with cooling fans? OMG.

  • undrwater@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    It’s where Linux really shines, to be honest. Those specs will be fine. Great learning opportunity for the students too.

  • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    4 months ago

    This is my rule of thumb and process to choose DE and distro:

    1. Find the CPU model and do a google search with it and the word passmark. The passmark page will tell you how fast the cpu is. If it’s between 500 and 1000, use XFce as your desktop environment. If it’s between 1000 and 2500, you can use Cinnamon (Linux Mint). If it’s more, you can use kde/gnome. If it’s less than 500, use LXQT or LXDE.
    2. How much RAM there is in there. These days, you need a minimum of 4GB of browse the internet (the DEs/distros themselves might use less than 1 GB of RAM, but the moment you open a web browser in this day and age, all hell breaks loose with memory usage). For best performance, 8+ GB is better.
    3. Ensure that it has over 16 GB of a drive. At 16 GB (as in some old Chromebooks), only Debian fits these days (with 6 GB free space after installation). Mint and the others prefer over 24 GB (both fedora and all the ubuntu-based ones are too big to fit in 16gb without issues – debian fits).

    Using these rules, I’ve converted many laptops and computers for my family here in Greece, installing the most appropriate each time. The least powerful computer was my mom’s old laptop, with 16 GB internal, 2 GB of RAM, 600 passmark points. As long as she’s only opening 1 tab on Chrome (Debian/XFce), she fits in the 2 GB RAM without swapping (most of the time). I use Chrome and not Firefox for these older laptops because Chrome uses LESS memory than Firefox (there’s an additional setting for it in the settings to help the matters more), and its youtube playback speed is much better too. I use firefox on more powerful computers, and it’s my default too, just not for underpowered computers.

  • digdilem@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Instead of you installing linux on them, why not make it a project for the kids? Give them a bunch of distros to try and see what they learn.

      • EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        Wholeheartedly agree!

        To really learn computers, let them dig into all the guts (hardware & software). Of course letting them choose & install their top pick OS sounds like a great way to start.

        Good luck!

  • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
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    3 months ago

    The hardware is totally fine, Linux requirements didnt really change at all in the last years.

    KDE Plasma is a really well maintained desktop, poorly also with a ton of customization. It has a very familiar user experience. GNOME is also nice but not familiar at all.

    On these machines, recommendations:

    • some stable distro like Debian 12, with automatic background updates
    • OR an atomic distro like Fedora Atomic. (Still waiting for CentOS bootc, which would be the best of both worlds. Or Rocky/Almalinux Atomic)
    • GNOME or KDE

    best would be to always delete the user account, so they need to store stuff on a network drive. That way they cannot permanently break a desktop, but you still dont need active directory stuff.

    Be aware that managing many PCs is work. Keep it as simple as possible, install apps as systemwide flatpaks, keep the OS minimal, automate updates.

    Maybe have a look at ansible, I think it is complex but the learning curve is worth the effort if you need to manage more than 4 machines.