IT administrators are struggling to deal with the ongoing fallout from the faulty CrowdStrike update. One spoke to The Register to share what it is like at the coalface.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the administrator, who is responsible for a fleet of devices, many of which are used within warehouses, told us: “It is very disturbing that a single AV update can take down more machines than a global denial of service attack. I know some businesses that have hundreds of machines down. For me, it was about 25 percent of our PCs and 10 percent of servers.”

He isn’t alone. An administrator on Reddit said 40 percent of servers were affected, along with 70 percent of client computers stuck in a bootloop, or approximately 1,000 endpoints.

Sadly, for our administrator, things are less than ideal.

Another Redditor posted: "They sent us a patch but it required we boot into safe mode.

"We can’t boot into safe mode because our BitLocker keys are stored inside of a service that we can’t login to because our AD is down.

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    We can’t boot into safe mode because our BitLocker keys are stored inside of a service that we can’t login to because our AD is down.

    Someone never tested their DR plans, if they even have them. Generally locking your keys inside the car is not a good idea.

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      The good news is! This is a shake out test and they’re going to update those playbooks

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        Sysadmins are lucky it wasn’t malware this time. Next time could be a lot worse than just a kernel driver with a crash bug.

        3rd party companies really shouldn’t have access to ship out kernel drivers to millions of computers like this.

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        The bad news is that the next incident will be something else they haven’t thought about

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        I wish you were right. I really wish you were. I don’t think you are. I’m not trying to be a contrarian but I don’t think for a large number of organizations that this is the case.

        For what it’s worth I truly hope that I’m 100% incorrect and everybody learns from this bullshit but that may not be the case.

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      I remember a few career changes ago, I was a back room kid working for an MSP.

      One day I get an email to build a computer for the company, cheap as hell. Basically just enough to boot Windows 7.

      I was to build it, put it online long enough to get all of the drivers installed, and then set it up in the server room, as physically far away from any network ports as possible. IIRC I was even given an IO shield that physically covered the network port for after it updated.

      It was our air-gapped encryption key backup.

      I feel like that shitty company was somehow prepared for this better than some of these companies today. In fact, I wonder if that computer is still running somewhere and just saved someone’s ass.

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      They also don’t seem to have a process for testing updates like these…?

      This seems like showing some really shitty testing practices at a ton of IT departments.

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          I’ve heard differently. But if it’s true, that should have been a non-starter for the product for exactly reasons like this. This is basic stuff.

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            Companies use crowdstrike so they don’t need internal cybersecurity. Not having automatic updates for new cyber threats sorta defeats the purpose of outsourcing cybersecurity.

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              Automatic updates should still have risk mitigation in place, and the outage didn’t only affect small businesses with no cyber security capability. Outsourcing does not mean closing your eyes and letting the third party do whatever they want.

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                Outsourcing does not mean closing your eyes and letting the third party do whatever they want.

                It shouldn’t, but when the decisions are made by bean counters and not people with security knowledge things like this can easily (and frequently) happen.

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              Not bothering doing basic, minimal testing - and other mitigation processes - before rolling out updates is absolutely terrible policy.

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        Unfortunately, the pace of attack development doesn’t really give much time for testing.

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            I was just thinking about something similar. I can understand wanting to get a security update as quickly as possible, but it still seems like some kind of rolling update could have mitigated something like this. When I say rolling, I mean for example split all of your customers into 24 groups and push the update once an hour to another group. If it causes a massive fuck up it’s only some or most, but not all.

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      I get storing bitlocker keys in AD, but as a net admin and not a server admin…what do you do with the DCs keys? USB storage in a sealed envelope in a safe (or at worst, locked file cabinet drawer in the IT managers office)?

      Or do people forego running bitlocker on servers since encrypting data-at-rest can be compensated by physical security in the data center?

      Or DCs run on SEDs?

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        When I set it up at one company, the recovery keys were printed out and kept separately.