Doesn’t CrowdStrike have more important things to do right now than try to take down a parody site?

That’s what IT consultant David Senk wondered when CrowdStrike sent a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) takedown notice targeting his parody site ClownStrike.

Senk created ClownStrike in the aftermath of the largest IT outage the world has ever seen—which CrowdStrike blamed on a buggy security update that shut down systems and incited prolonged chaos in airports, hospitals, and businesses worldwide…

  • roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Using the DMCA as a censorship tool needs to be a criminal offense subject to jail time.

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      Agreed 100%, it’s tactics similar to slapp lawsuits, and either shouldn’t be allowed and require jail time when abused

    • 4am@lemm.ee
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      Why that’s literally what it was designed to do

      • rezifon@lemmy.world
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        DMCA was designed to prevent intellectual property infringement, not as a censorship tool.

        • Ransack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yes that’s exactly what the person you replied to was saying.

          DMCA was built to save IP, however it’s routinely abused and used for censorship. And not a single thing is done to the abusers so they continue with their nonsense.

          • lud@lemm.ee
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            No they literally said that DMCA was designed for censorship…

            • TeoTwawki@lemmy.world
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              Copyright assholes got a seat at the table when it was being drafted everyone else was given the finger. Its designed to be easily abused. Accidently on purpose, if you get me.

      • turmacar@lemmy.world
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        It is, but this isn’t. The DMCA doesn’t mention Trademark. That’s a separate section of law because copyright and trademark are different things.

        Crowdstrike submitting a DMCA takedown for alleged Trademark infringement isn’t how it’s supposed to work at all. Likely because they know this isn’t actually a Trademark infringement case.

        Cloudflare’s automated system not being smart enough to see that is fine. Their abuse/counterclaim process being broken isn’t. ( Not that that’s new or unique )

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            Cloudflare’s counterclaim system didn’t open a ticket when the notification email was replied to.

            That’s the kind of nonsense you expect from a local municipality hosting solution. Not one of the biggest on the Internet.

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      Someone is racing Elon in an “any % speed run to completely destroy an established companies credibility.”

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        Elom should buy CrowdStrike, rename it clownstrike, send the DMCA, and then run it into the ground like Twitter.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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      Yes and no here. Businesses by and large won’t stop using them because of this. And if they succeed, it’s a deterrent for others.

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        We must agree that :
        1-they did want to sensor information
        2-but the information was made more public.
        Now, are you saying that (1) was indeed their intention but also that (2) was intentional. That being quite rich, they will continue to send DMCAs to intimidate anyone. Finally, their main goal wouldn’t only be to deter this one action but also similar actions by others, which would be more effective if the DMCA succeeds.
        … i must agree with you here if this is what you meant.

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    I don’t see anything on the parody ClownStrike site that infringes the DMCA. At best, Crowdstrike might have a valid trademark infringement claim, but DMCA is only for copyright infringement claims, not trademark claims.

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    Lmao what a legend. How would DMCA even apply in this case though? Parodies are free speech

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      They don’t. Companies regularly abuse DMCA notices because the law REQUIRES a hosting company to take down the information immediately.

      It allows 14 days for the same information to be restored after receiving a counter notice.

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        I think if DMCAs are abused, it should limit the company’s ability to file one in the future.

        and if not… regular people could do the same

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          Laws only apply to poor people. If you submit a bogus DMCA that takes down a corporation’s site, they will sue you so hard your children’s children will be paying off the debt.

          It’s all by design. The level of damage is measured by capital, and not by how illegitimate, anti-competitive, immoral, or criminal the actions are. There aren’t any multipliers to level the playing field against their wealth and power. All of the multipliers are in their favor.

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      I don’t see anything on that site that infringes the DMCA. At best they might have a trademark violation claim, but DMCA is only for copyright claims, not trademark claims.

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        The only real use of trademark I could find was actually on the twitter account clownstrike took a picture of, unless they seriously want to try and tell is they think the name could be confused for theirs with a straight face.

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          They have an edited version of the Crowdstrike logo on the page, which is what I was thinking of. It’s a stretch though.

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    Apparently, Cloudflare never received either of Senk’s counter notices, which is a problem since Cloudflare only allows a 72-hour window to contest a takedown notice.

    This sounds like ClownFlare outright lying through its teeth. Probably not even to defend ClownStrike, but to not look incompetent.

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      I think it’s time to expand the Clown-Empire and add ClownSocialServices.lol and ClownFlare to its Vassals.
      What do we call the head of state? The Witish Clown?

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    told Ars that he has no plans to move ClownStrike back to Cloudflare’s hosting service. Instead, he responded by suggesting that Cloudflare update its abuse-reporting system to confirm receipt of counter notices, build a web portal where users can track abuse reports,

    Good suggestions

    and perhaps most significantly, revoke CSC’s ability to submit abuse reports as a penalty for sending a bogus takedown

    Pretty sure they can’t. DMCA has strict rules that providers must follow to avoid liability.

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      thats not kerning, that’s justification ☝️🤓️

      kerning refers to the spacing between individual letters in the words, and justification is a method of typograghic alignment where space between words is stretched to make text flush with both left and right margins

  • troybot [he/him]@midwest.social
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    My name is Nathan Fielder, And I graduated from one of Canada’s top business schools with really good grades.

    The plan: turn this website into the world’s first parody cybersecurity platform

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    way to go, dorks. now i’ve heard of this site that i would have never heard of if you hadn’t streissanded it. and i for one approve