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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/20260243

Google Chrome warns uBlock Origin may soon be disabled

Google Chrome is now encouraging uBlock Origin users who have updated to the latest version to switch to other ad blockers before Manifest v2 extensions are disabled.

  • cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml
    2·
    1 month ago

    I see many people say to just use forks of Firefox. I use Librewolf myself. However, are such forks not very dependent on upstream Firefox not being completely enshittified? Will it be possible to keep the forks free of all new bullshit, or does that at any point become a too difficult/comprehensive task for the maintainers?

  • ambitiousslab@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    1 month ago

    I really wish there was a GPL-licensed rendering engine and browser, accepting community funding, with some momentum behind it.

    I feel Ladybird have correctly identified the problem - that all major browsers and engines (including Firefox) get their primary source of funding from Google, and thus ads. And the donations and attention they’ve received show that there is real demand for an alternative.

    But I think the permissive license they have chosen means history will repeat itself. KHTML being licensed under the LGPL made it easy for Google to co-opt, since it was so much easier to incorporate into a proprietary (or more permissively licensed) codebase.

    There is Netsurf, but the rendering engine understandably and unfortunately lags behind the major ones. I just wish it was possible to gather support and momentum behind it to the same extent that Ladybird has achieved.

    • ssm@lemmy.sdf.org
      1·
      1 month ago

      GPL is not good enough, a new browser meant to thwart Google should have a strict anti-corporate anti-commercial license, even if it doesn’t fall under the umbrella of open source.

      If you don’t believe me, please consult proprietary vendor android distributions.

    • wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 month ago

      I’m probably wrong, but isn’t the Mozilla License non-permissive? It’s likely more complicated than that. Non-permissive*

      • ambitiousslab@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        Agreed, it’s licensed under the MPL, a “weak copyleft” license. Each file that is MPL must remain MPL, but other files in the same project can be permissive or even proprietary.

        While I definitely think it’s better than a fully permissive license, it seems more permissive than the LGPL, which is the main license of WebKit and Blink. So I don’t feel it’s strong enough to stop it being co-opted.

  • anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    1 month ago

    Firefox’s desktop market share is the lowest it has ever been, and its mobile share is zero-point-smithereens. not to be a party pooper but google and chromium’s monopolistic hold is only growing stronger.

  • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 month ago

    Firefox has a lot of issues

    I dunno… I mean, what are your expectations?

    Ultimately I have actual problems in my life, my browser choice is an absolutely marginal decision I make when the actual goal is to visit a website that in itself is usually just a tiny component of something else - say ordering something, checking on a piece of information, etc etc.

    It’s kinda weird to even think so much about browsers - excluding when you are actively developing for/with them - that you recognize issues beyond a single big one like “Has no support for an adblocker”. I can get behind that being big enough to matter in regards to which browser is usable or not.

    But again, if you develop for Firefox or an addon for it, I can see why details matter and you’d probably have a long laundry list of issues, sure.

    • CafecitoHippo@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      1 month ago

      I dunno… I mean, what are your expectations?

      Honestly, some sites just don’t want to work properly. Firefox is my main browser. For some reason, Dicks Sporting Goods has like a 50% success rate on whether the page wants to load correctly. I fire up Brave when I’m looking at their website.

    • 2ncs@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 month ago

      usually just a tiny component of something else - say ordering something

      Funnily enough, when I go to a restaurant and they have receipts with QR codes (I think it’s Clover), it just doesn’t work in Firefox.

  • ssm@lemmy.sdf.org
    11·
    1 month ago

    Mozilla == Democrats

    Google == Republicans

    {qt,gtk}webkit, netsurf, ladybird, textmode browsers == The actual way forwards

    Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk on US Politics