I have seen many comments saying that lemmy.world sucks, and sh.itjust.works is good. I have seen that lemmy.world apparently has a very poor reputation among other instances. Why? After a quick look, sh.itjust.works doesn’t look much different to me. Can anyone explain?

Edit: many good replies. the conclusion I’m drawing is that for my purposes it doesn’t really matter. I appreciate everyone who responded

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Have you stopped to consider that maybe you’re just an asshole?

    No, seriously, you’re whining about being called a tankie when… like dude, you’re a tankie. Half your comments are just bringing up how EU/UK support for Ukraine’s defense is a frivolous waste or similar. I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

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      12 days ago

      I doubt you think of yourself like this but to an outside observer you’re deeply toxic.

      From my position warmongering is deeply toxic.

      No matter how much organizing you do with other anarchists offline, to the .world crowd if you’re to the left of Joe Biden you’re a tankie.

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        8 days ago

        From my position, the jedi are evil!

        Man, they weren’t kidding about those federation issues. Just now got the notification here. Listen, you’re not wrong that people are reactionaries, this is the internet. Many people need to either figure out they aren’t welcome, or figure out a less confrontational way to present their ideas (me included, often).

        But all that said: there’s a difference between “I think anarchists are largely naive at best” and “This person is a tankie”. I can (and frequently do) disagree with all manner of left-slash political opinions, and I’m perfectly happy to coexist with them since they often have perfectly good ideas that come from a position I disagree with, but can accept.

        What I can’t abide, and what the above asshole espouses, is the brainless regurgitation of pro-russian propaganda. Ideas like “enabling the AFU’s continued defense of Ukraine is unconscionable and the guilt for all the innocent deaths lay at the feet of NATO for enabling this war to continue” are what makes someone a tankie, and are what that person keeps saying. That’s the shit they get pushback on (and which they fail to understand the negative reactions to), because they’re too self-centered to realize that Ukranians aren’t some innocent babes in the wood lead astray by a wolf. They are a people who have fought and died, for hundreds of years, to secure their fucking right to choose the fates they make for themselves. The choice to lay down one’s life for a cause they believe in, that they dictate, is one every culture holds absolutely sacred. How many martyred anarchists are there, who’s names live on in the creed of those who come after them? I’m not even an anarchist and I can think of dozens.

        A situation has arisen which has lead so, so many to make that choice, and while every life lost here is a tragedy I grieve over every day, infantilizing the people who’s lives are freely given? The people who’s lives are being stolen from them? The ones who’ve been found with their hands still bound, dumped in mass graves? The busses full of stolen children, who will never be seen again?

        THAT is what makes this jackass a fucking tankie.

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          From my position, the jedi are evil!

          statist cops who routinely perform extrajudicial executions, have largely unchecked mind control powers and freedom to recruit child slaves from pod racing without any sort of oversight

          Next you’ll probably need me to explain why the imperium of man is evil

          You seem very emotionally invested in war with Russia, I don’t think opposing that makes people tankies, nor do I see how opposition to war infantalizes the people getting killed by it.

          Ukranians aren’t a monolith and there were plenty of Ukranians getting killed by their government prior to '22.

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            Of everything you could choose to criticize the jedi for, of all the many things you could choose, Thought Crimes and Qui-Gon emancipating Anikan is what you go with? I mean, christ, I just said that to point out how cliché your response was, I did not think you’d actually roll with the idea I was comparing you to Darth Fucking Vader.

            Honestly there’s not much more for me to say to this. Between that and you revealing that you think the imperium is evil (which… uhm… buddy you’ve missed the entire joke) I think you’ve made your grasp of political nuance pretty explicit. I won’t even try to figure out what you mean by saying ukranians aren’t a monolith, or that there have been ukranians dying in wars prior to 2022. Obviously this is true? You do know about the annexation of crimea, right? Or… essentially the entire history of Ukraine? Or every other country? And the active genocide Russia is carrying out on the Ukranian people, you know about that?

            Sheesh. Opposition to war with russia does not infantalize Ukrainians, nor does it make one a tankie. War is bad. If I had a magic wand, I’d end the war in a second. I’ve been to wars, I know exactly how awful they really are. But, opposing war with russia because you think Ukraine are the aggressors, or that any violence is to be opposed even self defence, or because one is deluded enough to think that ukranians are somehow being tricked into fighting this war by evil nato arms companies, is what makes someone a tankie. The Ukrainian people have had a war forced on them by russia, and none of them wanted this.

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              Of everything you could choose to criticize the jedi for, of all the many things you could choose, Thought Crimes and Qui-Gon emancipating Anikan is what you go with? I mean, christ, I just said that to point out how cliché your response was, I did not think you’d actually roll with the idea I was comparing you to Darth Fucking Vader.

              idk where you got the Vader comparison, but the system that the Jedi were upholding had slavery, freeing the one who happens to be valuable doesn’t make them good.

              They are the reactionary enforcers/janissaries for that particular empire.

              also ‘thought crimes’ is like when you’re getting prosecuted for having bad opinions, my issue is that they let these psychic cops just run around manipulating people’s minds

              Honestly there’s not much more for me to say to this. Between that and you revealing that you think the imperium is evil (which… uhm… buddy you’ve missed the entire joke) I think you’ve made your grasp of political nuance pretty explicit.

              what’s joke then?

              opposing war with russia because you think Ukraine are the aggressors, or that any violence is to be opposed even self defence,

              I think the causes America chooses to support are the ones which benefit it geopolitically, regardless of how “worthy” their cause. Palestinians are defending themselves against aggression where’s their shipment of Abrams and air defenses?

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      13 days ago

      … the root of the problem is your apparent compulsion to call people “toxic” and “assholes” for having different views.

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        Ah yes, the “no u” gambit. Classic, deadly, refined. The most elegant of rebuttals. A refuge for only the sharpest of wits.

        Anyways, do you mean different views like say, someone holding different (and by your own admission, quite common) opinions about how your conduct reflects on your character…?

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        13 days ago

        They’re not calling you that for having different views. They’re calling you that for making up reasons to offend yourself and acting like a toxic drama queen. And the ratio shows they aren’t alone.

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          13 days ago

          And what is your reason for adding your personal attack to this already well populated debate ?

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            13 days ago

            You’re doing it again. Me pointing out a simple fact. That you brought up two different things which the author never even addressed. In order to turn yourself into some victim. That is a simple fact. If you feel that it is an attack on you to have that pointed out. Perhaps you need to look inwards.

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                13 days ago

                An account of your actions is not an opinion. Please take the gaslighting somewhere else.

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                13 days ago

                You should really think about how a fairly straightforward reframing of your actions reads, even to you, like an intentionally negative characterization (or even an attack). If thats how it looks to you, imagine how it must look to other people.