Google's search deal with Mozilla is such a sizeable portion of its overall income that without it, Firefox would struggle to compete - or even survive,
  • Supervisor194@lemmy.world
    3·
    9 个月前

    Oh look we’re back to the “open source software can’t survive on its own without gobs of money and million-dollar CEOs wah wah wah” again.

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
      11·
      9 个月前

      Wtf you on about?

      The grand majority of all costs for Firefox are in engineering salaries. And there is no million dollar CEO relating to the nonprofit’s expenses, that CEO is paid for from funds from the for profit organization.

      Browsers are CRAZY expensive to build and maintain. And teams of engineers are crazy expensive.

      • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zipBanned
        1·
        9 个月前

        And what percentage of Mozilla’s income goes towards Firefox?

        Mozilla sucks as much as Wikipedia when it comes to funding

        • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
          21·
          8 个月前

          Thank you for making no effort to engage in conversation and instead trying to shut it down because it doesn’t agree with you.

          Insinuating that I’m repeating talking points as a way to dismiss my opinion is the kind of bad faith comments no one wants here.

          • Supervisor194@lemmy.world
            11·
            8 个月前

            You started your quest for good faith engagement with “Wtf you on about?”

            You’re not just a corporate simp, you’re a hypocrite as well. I don’t want to engage in conversation with people like you, there’s no point.

  • slacktoid@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    9 个月前

    Well goodbye mozilla it wasn’t great knowing you. Hopefully you are able to fuck over the devs and golden parachute your c-suite bastards one last time.

    • brax@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      9 个月前

      Maybe, but what are the odds of a fork taking off? It was started under the codename “Phoenix” and went by “Firebird” for some time before becoming “Firefox”.

      Maybe it’s time for a fork to rise from the ashes and take off…

      • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 个月前

        Any fork will die a slow and painful death of it can’t get the necessary funding for project management and maintainer salaries.

        It will also dwindle, hard, towards irrelevancy.

        In world where the only viable browser is one owned and operated by Google.

  • toastmeister@lemmy.ca
    1·
    9 个月前

    Its interesting they don’t have all the services Proton does. I’d pay them for a email and VPN combo.

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
    0·
    9 个月前

    Maybe, just as a crazy thought here, jwz was right. Mozilla and Firefox exist for 2 purposes - to build the standard reference browser, free of corporate crud (like, say, Google WebExtensions); and to be an absolute attack dog against ridiculous corporate desires.

      • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
        0·
        9 个月前

        I mean mainly fighting against the standardization of DRM, or tolerating anything that allows corporations to demand their “features” (anything that removes privacy) become standard. The difference between a good browser and a bad one shouldn’t be whether you can finagle a Widevine license for cheap.

        Or, more generally, they should be actively blocking anything that would benefit corporate interests over the rights of the people. But since the Linux Foundation threw in with Google, Microsoft is a Google client, and Mozilla Corp runs on Google money, the W3C has been a joke for years. Mozilla has made themselves irrelevant, since they were just seen as a means to prevent the Google antitrust cases.

        Hopefully this breakup of Google, and the loss of the money, will get the CEO (currently earning 1% of the total of Mozilla’s money - no one person should do that unless there’s less than 100 people), and that whole bunch to leave so that volunteers can take over.