Our weekly roundup of news from East Asia curates the industrys most important developments.Chinese worker fined $145K over VPN An unnamed individual in China was fined 1.06 million yuan ($144,907) for using a virtual private network (VPN) to access restricted websites as part of a remote work rout…
Third party scraped reports citing a crypto shill site’s reporting on a blurry and redacted document from China’s equivalent of Facebook is how I get all my accurate and true news about things that really happened.
It’s good to show genuine scepticism to what you read, but I can’t help but think yours is not particularly honest.
It is extremely clear via auditing the trail of this report that the ‘crypto shill site’ is negligible to the story. You would have had to go back one step in the chain, stick your fingers in your ears, then ignore everything else from that point onwards to think Coin Telegraph was actually relevant to the reporting of this story.
True or not, here you can find a clear summary, along with screenshots stamped with the seal of the Chengde PD. These screenshots, contrary to your claim, are not at all blurry, and have minimal redaction (to protect the person’s privacy).
Given fairly credible and detailed screenshots of a police report, numerous reporting across a number of different websites in both Chinese and English, even a reported GitHub profile of the person in question, I think there’s sufficient evidence to believe this is likely a true story.
First of all, if there is a better source then OP should post the better source to begin with. Everyone should be skeptical when presented with a second hand summary of something going through two weak sources.
As for the original source, it’s an NED front based in the US so as far as I’m concerned it can be dismissed with no further consideration.
Hmm… To debate with a conspiracy theorist or not… Such a difficult choice.
You know what, let me try something different…
You win this debate! I concede! Although I am not an American and don’t live in America, I am a stooge of the American imperialists! And yes, like the other 8.1 billion people on the planet (sans you, of course), I live on stolen land! Have mercy!
You know you can’t take in information wholesale, right? News corporations have their biases. So do individuals. When talking about countries regarded as foreign adversaries, most of these reports about an unnamed individual tend to be bullshit.
Did you even read the comment chain you’re responding to? You know, the one where I said it is ‘good to show genuine scepticism’? Or the one after that, where I linked the ‘unnamed’ individual’s alleged GitHub?
I am not the one being overly trusting here. I think it is ‘likely’ that this story is true. I researched it, looked at the significant amount of evidence, and I am still not 100% convinced. That is far more than what I can say for you people replying to me en masse who all assume the story must be an American plot with absolutely no evidence to back up this claim.
Ugh, I need to figure out a way to unsubscribe from replies to a post. You people are bonkers.
So let’s get this straight, the unnamed individual has a name. The dude who got busted for overseas contract work using a VPN is still committing his work on GitHub… which requires a VPN. Either we’re not getting the full story, or we’re just being lied to for internet clout.
If you’re not 100% convinced, why are you trying to defend this article as if it were fact?
The NED is directly and openly an arm of the CIA, an organization which has contributed to and participated in the politically driven murders of human being numbering in 7 digits.
If you can’t find a source that doesn’t link back to them, the story is bullshit and you’re falling for American state-sponsored disinfo.
Inventing conspiracy theorists was the most intelligent thing the US state department ever did.
Pointing out the CIA does active psychological operations on it’s own population is seen as crazy and unbelievable by the average person in the West.
For the credulous, I ask this. How many times has Kim Jong Un been reported dead now in the media? Do you really think that was just an accident every single time, or do you think someone might have an agenda?
The first link is just quoting the social media post verbatim. Treat it with the same degree of reliability as “this guy said on Facebook/Twitter…”
Second article actually goes out of its way to say how uncommon it is to be punished for circumventing the firewall:
“Climbing the firewall results in punishment” is not the norm
A common misunderstanding among the public about circumvention is that anyone who circumvents the wall will be punished. This is unrealistic for two reasons: first, the public security organs do not have that many law enforcement police; second, the public security organs are not as busy as you think. Most of the time, the punishment for circumventing the wall is to pull out the radish and bring out the mud. There are typical cases where the public security organs take the initiative to go to the external network to arrest people, but the number is very small.
Judging from the 50 cases, only one case adopted the first-level “extreme law enforcement model”, that is, the “use of circumvention software is punishable” model. The description of the case was “A certain person used his own mobile phone to use a VPN on the Internet to circumvent the firewall.” Wall software, its behavior constitutes the unauthorized use of non-legal channels for international networking." Even so, the actual situation of enforcement may be different from the description of the administrative penalty decision.
Third party scraped reports citing a crypto shill site’s reporting on a blurry and redacted document from China’s equivalent of Facebook is how I get all my accurate and true news about things that really happened.
It’s good to show genuine scepticism to what you read, but I can’t help but think yours is not particularly honest.
It is extremely clear via auditing the trail of this report that the ‘crypto shill site’ is negligible to the story. You would have had to go back one step in the chain, stick your fingers in your ears, then ignore everything else from that point onwards to think Coin Telegraph was actually relevant to the reporting of this story.
True or not, here you can find a clear summary, along with screenshots stamped with the seal of the Chengde PD. These screenshots, contrary to your claim, are not at all blurry, and have minimal redaction (to protect the person’s privacy).
Given fairly credible and detailed screenshots of a police report, numerous reporting across a number of different websites in both Chinese and English, even a reported GitHub profile of the person in question, I think there’s sufficient evidence to believe this is likely a true story.
But you do you.
First of all, if there is a better source then OP should post the better source to begin with. Everyone should be skeptical when presented with a second hand summary of something going through two weak sources.
As for the original source, it’s an NED front based in the US so as far as I’m concerned it can be dismissed with no further consideration.
Ah, you’re one of those. Nuf sed.
I’m sorry we can’t all be credulous stooges of American imperialism living on stolen land like you.
Against Chinese imperialism and their absurd historical claims to steal land?.
Hmm… To debate with a conspiracy theorist or not… Such a difficult choice.
You know what, let me try something different…
You win this debate! I concede! Although I am not an American and don’t live in America, I am a stooge of the American imperialists! And yes, like the other 8.1 billion people on the planet (sans you, of course), I live on stolen land! Have mercy!
You know you can’t take in information wholesale, right? News corporations have their biases. So do individuals. When talking about countries regarded as foreign adversaries, most of these reports about an unnamed individual tend to be bullshit.
Did you even read the comment chain you’re responding to? You know, the one where I said it is ‘good to show genuine scepticism’? Or the one after that, where I linked the ‘unnamed’ individual’s alleged GitHub?
I am not the one being overly trusting here. I think it is ‘likely’ that this story is true. I researched it, looked at the significant amount of evidence, and I am still not 100% convinced. That is far more than what I can say for you people replying to me en masse who all assume the story must be an American plot with absolutely no evidence to back up this claim.
Ugh, I need to figure out a way to unsubscribe from replies to a post. You people are bonkers.
Woah you read some anonymous person’s social media page and went to a GitHub page that may or may not be connected to the same person?
Fuck, call the Pulitzer committee, we got ourselves an investigative journalist.
So let’s get this straight, the unnamed individual has a name. The dude who got busted for overseas contract work using a VPN is still committing his work on GitHub… which requires a VPN. Either we’re not getting the full story, or we’re just being lied to for internet clout.
If you’re not 100% convinced, why are you trying to defend this article as if it were fact?
Stop posting shit takes, and if you did then at least engage in good faith
You can be a stooge for American imperialism without being actually American
Going by their username I’m guessing they’re from Australia, a country that famously has never been a stooge of American imperialism
Engaging in genocide minimization to own the socialists.
drink your own piss and die, dumbass
The NED is directly and openly an arm of the CIA, an organization which has contributed to and participated in the politically driven murders of human being numbering in 7 digits.
If you can’t find a source that doesn’t link back to them, the story is bullshit and you’re falling for American state-sponsored disinfo.
Inventing conspiracy theorists was the most intelligent thing the US state department ever did.
Pointing out the CIA does active psychological operations on it’s own population is seen as crazy and unbelievable by the average person in the West.
For the credulous, I ask this. How many times has Kim Jong Un been reported dead now in the media? Do you really think that was just an accident every single time, or do you think someone might have an agenda?
lmao lib
people who don’t uncritically swallow state dept propaganda are bad, actually
The crypto site is referencing the original article here:
https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/700552.html
And related article:
https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/700670.html
The first link is just quoting the social media post verbatim. Treat it with the same degree of reliability as “this guy said on Facebook/Twitter…”
Second article actually goes out of its way to say how uncommon it is to be punished for circumventing the firewall: