Easily the worst part of the Linux experience is its community.
Yeah it’s super weird, if you go to a specific forum for help, like cachyos or bazzite, the community is bearable, and sometimes very helpful without being rude. But if you go to a general forum and state you’re having any issues with Linux you’ll be downvoted to hell and told Linux is still better than windows.
People who bitch and moan about Windows yet dismiss any alternative out of hand aren’t “having any issues with Linux.” Their issues are (a) with Windows and (b) not wanting to hear the truth of that being pointed out to them.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to pretend this post is saying something it’s not.
Obviously, being mean to someone making a good-faith effort to improve themselves and solve their problems is not okay, but that’s not what we’re talking about here.
It’s pretty hard to fit all of what you just said into a meme. For example your meme does not say that windows users are “dismissing any alternative out of hand”. It says windows users that refuse to switch. Maybe they hate windows but they literally must use Fusion 360 or AutoDesk or Meshmixer or RealityCapture or one of the numerous other software options that just do not work on windows.
Anyway, if what your meme is actually about is people that only use the browser and then refuse to switch but still constantly complain then yeah you’re dead on.
It’s pretty hard to fit all of what you just said into a meme.
I see that now!
Anyway, if what your meme is actually about is people that only use the browser and then refuse to switch but still constantly complain then yeah you’re dead on.
My meme is indeed sort of about that, but it’s even more about pushing back on the other thread and similar sentiments, where their flying monkeys defend their useless complaining and then try to make us out as the bad guys for responding in any way short of wallowing in their misery with them.
Interestingly it was more or less the same on Reddit as well.
I mean that part makes sense. This is essentially the exact same community. Linux users will spread to any “general” Linux community on the web.
What? This is made up. Go to the Ask Linux community and explain where this is happening.
You mean the communities where the rules forbid asking newbie questions because people visit them to learn about new developments and inevitable FOSS dramas?
No I’m talking about complaining about the problems you’re having with Linux not asking for help with anything. It’s literally happened in this exact community here, where people ask what issues people encounter with Linux, and if I (or others) say I have any issues I get downvoted to hell.
No one deserves to be treated like that. The fact that there are people that righteously believe people deserve to be treated like that is part of our problems as a society.
Locking. The comment section is a perfect summary of why so many people don’t want to be associated with Linux users. I should’ve removed the post outright because it is inflammatory, reactionary, and invites toxicity – evidenced by the fact that the downvotes on dissenting comments are largely made by the same users. I wonder if a pattern might emerge.
There is a discussion to be had about the topic… but it went to exchanging insults and downvoting out of disagreement.
the largest barrier to linux is its user base
Dont interact with it then. There are manuals.
The shift to Linux is a tough one, and it just cannot happen all at once. The longer you spend in a workflow, the longer it takes to change it. If we offer our support and kindness to people when they struggle with Windows, it lends more credibility when we recommend Linux. Plus, I’m not really going to complain about another opportunity to call out when Microsoft does more dumb shit.
What kept me from swapping longer than anything else was spite for the shitty linux community.
I’d treat my boss like that but I still need a job
Yeah it’s a tough switch. It’s a lot like getting out of a relationship that you know isn’t gonna work, but every time you go to end it you think “hey it isn’t that bad right NOW is it?” and put it off.
A clean break would be faster and easier for everybody involved.
Now you DO stand to accrue some extra skills by spending some time with a foot in both workflows. It makes you have to learn some weird shit. But in the long run idk if that actually helps more than it hurts.
I took a long time to make the switch lol.
Yeah it’s a tough switch. It’s a lot like getting out of a relationship that you know isn’t gonna work, but every time you go to end it you think “hey it isn’t that bad right NOW is it?” and put it off.
A clean break would be faster and easier for everybody involved.
Exactly! And having enablers of that toxic relationship, like the person quoted in that other post, scolding people for making that exact point only makes the situation even worse.
This right here is why you don’t have a romantic partner
I think with Linux and the Fediverse there is the same problem. “Just use Linux” okay then, which one? “Use Lemmy” “Use Mastodon” okay then, what instance?
For all companies and corpos to switch to Linux, it needs to become a new Windows, because the core difference between proprietary and free software, in my opinion, is not the way it is distributed but the way it is developped and used. It is “we’ll do everything for you in a centralised manner and you’ll just passively consume it” vs. “everyone is a creator, creating new stuff on their own in a decentralised manner out of the will for self-actualisation” philosophy. So I think truely free software isn’t compatible with centralised and uncreative type of production which most companies are. Basically DIY vs. commercial support.
