Hello all,

For a few days now I have been reading about the shiny new opencloud alternative to nextcloud. Has anyone tried to migrate from nextcloud to opencloud?

I have not found a guide about how to move the files from one to the other. I want to try it out and if I like it enough, move. But how does one do that?

  • Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
    link
    fedilink
    Français
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    5 months ago

    For people wondering about the source of the project:

    • at first there was Ownlcoud
    • when the business model proved conflictuous with community management, Nextcloud was born
    • when PHP proved not good enough, Owncloud Infinite Scale was born
    • when some dev were not happy with kiteworks, current owner of the dev company, the left to create Opencloud based on Owncloud Infinite Scale

    Kiteworks threatened them about illegal worker theft, they were not happy a lot of dev left for the fork, and as an american company, they don’t know worker right.

      • fodor@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        5 months ago

        Although people mention efficiency, for many setups we just don’t care. If it ain’t broke for you, don’t fix it. Wait, revisit the issue a year or two from now.

      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 months ago

        If it works for you, there’s no reason not to keep using it.

        If it looks like an upgrade in performance and simplicity and you think it’s worth swapping, then you could consider it, though personally I’d wait until it’s a bit more mature/proven (maybe it is already idk).

    • paper_moon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      sigh the naming of these projects… I know if you’ve been paying attention to development projects then the similarities in naming helps you, you can assume 1 project was forked from another and vaguely already know what the project does, is used for, etc. But for nontechnical newbies I’m sure its confusing as hell having like 4 products all named similarly and you have no idea why or what the difference is and which one to choose.

      Anyway, thanks for spelling it out, for anyone confused.

  • Fair Fairy@thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    Official open cloud docs mention rclone.

    Alternatively I think u can just copy files directory and restart opencloud. I think it supposed to recognize them.

  • gergo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 months ago

    Reading through the comments, thisnwill get very confusing with the naming…

  • traceur201@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 months ago

    What are the benefits? They’d have to be pretty big to make it worth switching away from nextcloud’s copyleft license imo

    • amateurcrastinator@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      I have no clue about the licensing, it appears to be a European project so I figured I could try it for a bit. But I realize a better approach would be to just test it out with a few unimportant files before I commit to it.

      I have been using nextcloud for about 5 year now. So I have quite a few file and about 5 users on my instance

  • nfreak@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 months ago

    I made the switch a few months back. Manually migrated my files over using the desktop apps for both, but it was maybe 200GB of junk so it didn’t take long.

    OpenCloud is great. Much faster, much simpler, does what it needs to do. That being said, it is very new so documentation is lacking, and the desktop and mobile app are VERY basic (the mobile app doesn’t have a dark theme and only offers a limited photo sync right now, for example, instead of setting various one or two-way synced folders).

    It’s also worth nothing that their compose file and OIDC support are both a mess. The compose file is easy enough to work around, plenty of folks have put together cleaner, minimal single file setups. For OIDC, I did get it working with Authentik but it loves to constantly log me out mid-session in Librewolf all the time. For some reason they use a hard-coded clientID for OIDC, and even worse the ID is different for web, desktop, and mobile. Very bizarre.

    So it’s far from flawless, but it’s early in development and overall it’s still a better fit for me than Nextcloud.

  • bklrzn@lemmy.bklrzn.me
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    I’m testing it since yesterday next to my current nextcloud inatance. It is much more lightweight than nextcloud and suits my needs perfectly when it comes to features. Buuuut… for now I can’t migrate to it because of issues I have with android app, I’m using authelia as IdP and after I finally made it to work together I’m constantly logged out from the mobile app, there are few unresolved issues on github that after those are sorted out I hope I can make a switch. For now I will stay with nextcloud