I wish there was a way to hide the synopsis.

I like watching movies and TV without knowing the plot of what I’m about to watch

Yeah. Last thing I want is to deal with all the anti-environment, anti-EV pro-extremist right wing toxic-macho shit bots.

Quality, not quantity. With too many people, moderation begins to fail

It’s pretty much copying lol. It has no idea about patents, or unique ideas. It basically just takes every unique idea and pretends it invented them because it doesn’t understand

And that’s the problem

It’s basically just something that tries to take credit for everything.

This isn’t college.

And that’s not how AI works.

AI literally just copies bits of lots of sources and cobbles it together.

It has no idea what any of it means. We learn via experience. AI models won’t

If I write a reference book, I need to reference my source if I’m quoting things. Even if I saw it in 2 different books .

AI does not

Question… if there is only 1 source of information on a topic, and AI needs to reference it, what happens? It basically just copies it and changes a few words. No reference to the original author. It doesn’t even know.

If I read a book into a podcast and change a few words, take credit and don’t give any to the original author is that ok?

It’s not AI. That’s a marketing term like blockchain. Its just a combined data scraper with some random data.

Pretty much. It’s just weird this whole thread Feels like it was written by a marketing person.

Developers used to get hounded for blockchain by sales people.

Now the same people have moved to AI. Companies love it mainly because they can steal work, summarise it a bit, and profit. Some things were literally tracked down to specific web pages as the source

As others have said, it isn’t inspired always, sometimes it literally just copies stuff.

This feels like it was written by someone who invested their money in AI companies because they’re worried about their stocks

It’s not a common scenario probably.

But I felt at least one admin was so focused on protecting at least 1 minority, that they were willing to overlook bad behavior by some of them. Or maybe they knew that if they told them to act better that the community would see them as a threat

In fact, the person who exclaimed that I “wanted to kill the entire minority” simply because I didn’t 100% agree with one thing also I realized colored my opinion early of the rest of Lemmy on another thread by calling it a cesspool

It’s actually the opposite. People are free to discuss on other servers, and I realize that lots of the thing that person was saying, was actually bad for discussions except in a way that benefits them directly (even disregarding other people in their minority).

The crazy part is I have plenty of friends who are part of that minority lol

They were a mod too, so over time, some of these communities will only develop stronger and stronger opinions which are self reinforcing and rise to the top in these safe spaces and basically become another femaledatingstrategy like environment

I’ve heard evidence that it was a fairly toxic community there anyway.

We should be careful to avoid creating communities that are echo chambers. Ie, it should be a community discussing veganism, not a vegan safe space where people abuse you if you disagree

Otherwise, in 5 years time you end to with scenarios similar to reddit or on beehaw

I left beehaw because I half agreed with the community, someone in a “safe space” abused me, and a beehaw admin overlooked that abuse and instead insisted I was starting a flight (simply because I didn’t 100% agree with the community it seemed)

We also risk scenarios where vaping or drug communities could grow and become toxic in the same way. We also should be as scientific as possible and avoid becoming Facebook.

I’m not sure about the cat thing, but to me, it seems like it could at least be used as animal abuse

Smoking companies still are with vaping (vaping companies literally sell to kids over the Internet and people literally are arguing it’s safe and healthy)

Which unfortunately shows that people don’t learn

Again, you do realise Mono was started by the same guy who founded Gnome right?

What people don’t realize, is that Miguel de Icaza actually started gnome and mono.

Xamarin got acquired by Microsoft.

I’m so tired of watching the community crap on every company which donates open source (I’ve been watching for 25 years at least now). Even Redhat which basically is a major factor to the survival of Linux is getting crapped on. Systemd developers, etc.

If people are genuinely interested in Linux growing, they need a positive community. Because developers like myself mostly stopped providing free code (as a hobbyist developer) because whilst finding help is difficult, it’s not hard to find people willing to abuse you and your projects unfortunately

Even the VLC developers can’t escape the abuse

I think initially it was simply because Ellen pao might have wanted freedom of speech. The funny thing is that the people she defended turned against her

But this turned into an issue eventually Steve seemed to get rid of some communities, and allowed places like thedonald to flourish. I believe he just wants money.

So you could be right

The guy who started mono also started gnome you realize.

More likely he influenced this decision

Mate. I don’t even use Windows anymore lol

And I started a few open source projects and contributed to a lot of them.

This is why Linux still isn’t gaining market share because for 25 years I’ve been watching the community scare off developers and treat them like crap. It happens constantly.

You’re not giving anyone any incentive to assist

In all likelihood they donated this code because it doesn’t benefit them anymore or became a burden. The developers aren’t sitting there thinking “mmm, this is gonna make us so popular”.

Did you know the guy who stayed mono is actually the guy who started gnome? They got acquired by Microsoft.

I never saw the thread, but based on what I’m hearing, it’s animal abuse.

If you look at Reddit and Facebook they’ve both been mostly consumed by anti science communities which put people in real danger

We see communities like this create an echo chamber which grows and make it impossible to argue sanely.

The fact is, I have seen some increasingly toxicity in some vegan (and some other) communities on Lemmy too. And it is one reason why I left beehaw. Because they allow toxic communities to flourish (as long as they were driven by a minority).

I’d even go as far as the behavior of some of these communities look like femaledatingadvice/thedonald on Reddit slowly. It’s ok to have disagreements, but nobody and no animals should be put at risk.

The biggest issue with Reddit and Facebook was that they let stuff like this stick around it and eventually consume it.

It’s a good policy imho, and I’m happy to see it

Science should prevail

How does this help open source?

I’m not sure how the community has grown to be so toxic recently that it becomes risky to release a product as open source, and we’re losing opportunities. This has huge benefits to projects like wine

Are you guys suggesting they should retract the offer and close source everything?

It doesn’t mean there is some evil plan either 😂

You’ll find that developers in these companies tend not to care so much about politics either.

Like I used to sell apple gear. The sales people were political. When I went to a developer conference, the developers were absolutely upfront about everything and normal people

I agree actually. They’re not giving ANYONE incentive to donate to open source, and that mirrors my own experience where the community were asses to me too for my own project (which got lots of publicity including international print media, frontpage slashdot, etc. But after putting up with trolls telling me to do it a different way and calling it crap I dumped it. Fortunately a major distro had a similar idea at the same time and implemented. And thats a distro these same guys have also shat on honestly over the years.

People turned on Redhat too fairly quickly, and they donated a metric ton of code. And my experience in a lot of open source projects honestly is that on most of them, the community contributes next-to-nothing. Canonical too… SystemD? Constantly getting attacked.

it’s why I personally stopped creating my own projects.

If the community stopped using code from these companies they constantly crap on, I think they would be surprised just how little of linux is left (like Wayland is by a Redhat Developer, and Keith Packard from Xorg worked at HP).

And somehow, there is always some weird conspiracy too. Like even releasing Windows 1.0 source code would be something Microsoft does to try to trick linux users or whatever lol

In my experience, generally the most vocal contribute the least lol