that could be true, but my comment was the takeaway i had from reading the other comments in this thread (and from previous experience elsewhere on the internet). most people answering “arch” or “gentoo” are saying, themselves, that they like it because it “teaches them how linux works” or that they “like compiling stuff”. clearly the focus is tinkering with the system as an end in of itself, not using the system as a means to another end

The wallpaper has to be free of any themes related to sex, drugs, or violence.

Skeuomorphism is hard to get just right without being excessive and tacky

that was always my impression of os x back in the day. it felt tacky as hell. i’m a linux guy, but windows’s aero was so much more beautiful

skeumorphism is fucking ugly and it’s the main thing that made me dislike the appearance of os x back in the day. it honestly blew my mind people found apple to be the vanguard of graphical design

from the comments, there’s a split between

• linux as a tool: debian, mint, fedora, opensuse, etc.
• linux as a toy: arch, gentoo, nixos, etc.

i wish this split was made more explicit, because more often than not someone comes looking for recommendations for linux as a tool, but someone else responds expecting they want linux as a toy. then the person will try out linux and will leave because it’s not what they want, not knowing that there is a kind of linux that is what they want

i see people saying that, but the process was almost automatic to me. what issues are you having?

unix is about doing one thing and doing it well, which is why systemd, baaad

…what do you mean ditch x11 in favor of wayland? no no, we need to preserve x11, the famous one-thing-well-doer

did you understand my question?

enjoy having the best blacklisted drivers on linux then i guess

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that’s disconnected me from the general linux user experience

are we romanticizing having a broken system?

why would they use the gplv3 in the first place? didn’t they know it’s incompatible with v2?

what i mean by production is “not randomly breaking because it’s feature freeze time and now i have to reinstall everything”. i assure you it’s not a high bar

sorry if i sound a little annoying about this, it’s just that i’ve seen so many people recommending debian testing as if it’s just a different flavor of debian for people who want a more up-to-date system and are willing to deal with a little instability, but it is not that. debian testing is made exclusively for testing debian. it is not made for daily driving. i’ve had so many issues with debian systems in my lab which i later found out were caused by someone “upgrading” the system to testing bc they heard debian testing is the daily driving version and debian stable is just for servers that need 99.9% uptime

honestly, you’d be better off using sid rather than testing, since it’s rolling release

as for gimp, they can just use pinning to upgrade gimp exclusively. they can also use backports. no need to upgrade the whole system

never run debian testing for production use

never run debian testing for production use

debian testing is not fit for production use

it usually updates most packages when a new patch version is released (eg 2.3.1 -> 2.3.2). besides that, they will not update packages to new releases that add features

there are some special cases where it might choose to update more often. debian uses firefox esr by default, but it will update to a newer esr version no matter what, for security reasons. the same must be true for thunderbird.

thanks for the review

honestly that wouldn’t be reliable enough for me to daily drive at work, but i’m definitely getting one to play with once i have a little money to throw away

ty they look pretty nice and the shipping price is fine

most helpful l.w mod

and it seems to work pretty well with touchscreens according to the video

specs aren’t really that important tbh and i think a laptop will always be bulkier than a device with no keyboard. but i’m accepting recommendations anyway