And none are the top grade either.

I love how they had to crush it to get it to fit, must be for regulars and not king size.

How did you get that point from my comment?

So… that means one side of Gaza is sensible and the other isn’t? That’s the only take after their last comment.

Just pointing out that with their last comment, their other point can be taken as one side being sensible, while the other isn’t.

What does that have to do with boot licking?

Fantastic point, right up until that last sentence. But I guess people just want to circle jerk eh?

Man your comment was really impartial and well thought out, until that last comment. So close…

No, even ODB from the 70s records you max reached speed, if you’ve hit the governer/rev limiter and how many times.

It’s nothing modern, modern just does it more frequent, more situations, more information, more data points, and mandatory black boxes.

And many vehicles from 2000 onwards have dedicated EDR boxes, what make and model and trim is your 2012?

So sounds like you don’t quite know what’s going on under your hood there ;)

You’ll be surprised, they take snapshots at certain points. In a collision all vehicles will store last 5 or so seconds of data, speed, see if brakes are engaged, stuff like that, it’s all used in collision investigations. There’s not a single car I think that’s doesn’t do this. As I said, it’s in some form, but your vehicle does know if you’ve sped if it has an obd on it.

What do you think basic OBD stuff is? It’s all that information and that’s used to see if anything’s wrong with the vehicle.

Those still have an ECU that stores most of the same data. It knows you speed, it knows how hard you brake, etc. anything with an OBD will store data. And that’s carssince the 70s